PBS NewsHour; January 14, 2021, 3:00pm-4:00pm PST

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, CHAOS - AND CONSEQUENCES-- - MORE ARRESTS AS INVESTIGATIONS - AND CALLS FOR JUSTICE - INVESTIGATIONS AND CALLS FOR - JUSTICE INTENSIFY IN THE WAKE OF - THE CAPITOL RIOT THAT LED TO THE - PRESIDENT'S SECOND IMPEACHMENT. - THEN, "WILLFUL NEGLECT"-- FORMER - GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN RICK SNYDER - IS CHARGED WITH CRIMINALLY - MISHANDLING THE DEADLY AND - DESTRUCTIVE FLINT WATER CRISIS. - AND, CUTTING TIES: A GROWING - NUMBER OF BUSINESSES DISTANCE - THEMSELVES FROM THE PRESIDENT - AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY - FOLLOWING LAST WEEK'S VIOLENT - INSURRECTION. - >> THIS IS SIGNIFICANT THAT SO - MANY CORPORATIONS WOULD DO THIS - ESPECIALLY CORPORATIONS, EVEN - WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR HISTORY,

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- IT FEELS THAT EACH DAY BRINGS A - NEW HISTORIC MOMENT, AND THE - NEXT WEEK DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE - ANY DIFFERENT. - TO HELP US MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL: - OUR YAMICHE ALCINDOR AND LISA - DESJARDINS JOIN ME NOW. - SO, YAMICHE, I'M GOING TO START - WITH YOU. - AFTER THIS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE - ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL LAST WEEK, - A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING - ABOUT SECURITY, OF COURSE, FOR - THE INAUGURATION. - WHAT MORE CANOU TELL US ABOUT - THE PLANS AND NOT ONLY HERE IN - WASHINGTON, BUT IN CITIES AROUND - THE COUNTRY? - >> Reporter: WELL, FEDERAL - OFFICIALS ARE WORKING VERY, VERY - HARD TO ENSURE A SAFE - INAUGURATION, BUT THEY'RE - TRACKING A NUMBER OF THREATS, - BOTH TO THE CAPITOL IN - WASHINGTON, D.C., AS WELL AS IN - OTHER CITIES AND STATE CAPITOLS. - TODAY, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE - VISITED THE FEMA HEADQUARTERS, - AND THERE HE MET WITH A NUMBER - OF HIGH-RANKING NATIONAL - SECURITY OFFICIALS, INCLUDING - THE HEAD OF THE SECRET SERVICE, - THE HEAD OF THE HOMELAND - SECURITY, AS WELL AS THE HEAD OF - THE F.B.I.-- THE F.B.I. - DIRECTOR, RATHER. - AND WHAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE

- SAID WAS THAT HE IS REALLY - PUSHING ALL OF THESE AGENCIES TO - MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CONFIDENT - THAT THEY CAN FIND A SAFE WAY TO - HAVEN INAUGURATION FOR - PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN AND VICE - PRIDENT-ELECT HARRIS. - AND HE SAID, SPECIFICALLY, - AMERICANS DESERVE A SAFE - INAUGURATION. - HE ALSO SAID AT SOME POINT THAT - THIS INAUGURATION WAS GOING TO - BE IN KEEPING WITH OUR HISTORY - AND TRADITION. - THAT'S REALLY NOTABLE, GIVEN THE - LAST FEW DAYS AND WEEKS THAT - WE'VE LIVED THROUGH HERE WITH - PRESIDENT TRUMP, OF COURSE, - UPENDING ALL SORTS OF TRADITION - IN THIS COUNTRY. - ANOTHER THING TO NOTE IS THE - F.B.I. DIRECTOR, WHO SAID THAT - HE WAS CONFIDENT THAT THE F.B.I. - WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND ANYONE WHO - WAS THREATENING THE INAUGURATION - OR OTHER CITIES, HE HAS BEEN - WARNING POLICE OFFICIALS AROUND - THE COUNTRY TO BE VIGILANT AND - TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THE F.B.I. - IF THEY SEE ANY THREATS. - HE'S SAYING THAT THEY'RE - TRACKING A NUMBER OF THINGS, - INCLUDING THREATS TO CONGRESS - MEMBERS' HOMES, AS WELL AS - THREATS TO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS - AND STATE CAPITOLS. - ONE OTHER THING, I SPOKE TO A - SOURCE WHO WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE - NAWKERATION PLANNING, AND THEY - TOLD ME THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS - OF BOTH VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT

- HARRIS AND PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN - ARE BEING WARNED SPECIFICALLY TO - STAY IN THEIR HOTEL ROOMS IN - D.C. UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO THE - INAUGURATION. - THEY SAY DIFFERENCE FROM THE - PAST INAUGURATIONS. - THEY WERE OF COURSE GOING TO BE - TOLD NOT TO GO TOO FAR BECAUSE - OF THE PANDEMIC. - BUT NOW THEY'RE BEING TOLD, - UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO THE - INAUGURATION, STAY IN PLACE, - ESPECIALLY AS THE NATIONAL MALL - IS SHUT DOWN FOR MOST OF THE - PUBLIC. - THIS IS REALLY D.C. BECOMING A - FORTRESS, AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS - TRYING THEIR BEST TO TRACK - THREATS WHILE ALSO KEEPING - PEOPLE SAFE. - >> Woodruff: SO DIFFERENT, SO - VERY DIFFERENT, YAMICHE, FROM - PREVIOUS PRESIDENTIAL - INAUGURATIONS. - AS A REMINDER OF JUST HOW MUCH - THE INCOMING PRESIDENT HAS ON - HIS PLATE, HE'S NOT WAITING. - IN ONE RESPECT, YAMICHE, WE KNOW - TONIGHT HE'S GOING TO MAKE - REMARKS. - HE'S GOING TO ROLL OUT HIS - PROPOSAL FOR DEALING WITH BOTH - THE ECONOMIC AND SOME OF THE - HEALTH ASPECTS OF THE COVID - PANDEMIC. - WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT HE'S - GOING TO DISCLOSE? - >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT.

- AMID ALL OF THESE SECURITY - THREATS, PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN - SAID HE'S VERY FOCUSED ON THE - COVID-19 PANDEMIC, MAKING THAT - HIS TOP PRIORITY. - TONIGHT, HE'S GOING TO LAY OUT A - $1.9 TRILLION PLAN FOR COVID - RELIEF, WE CAN PUT UP FOR - PEOPLE. - IT'S CALLED "THE AMERICAN RESCUE - PLAN." - IT INCLUDES $400 BILLION TO - FIGHT COVID. - THAT'S TO MOUNT A NATIONAL - VACCINE PROGRAM AS WELL AS - CONTAINING AND BEATING THE - VIRUS. - $1 TRILLION FOR WORKERS AND - FAMILIES AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING - BY EXISTING INEQUALITY. - AS WELL AS $440 BILLION IN - RELIEF TO COMMUNITIES AND - BUSINESSES. - NOW, THE BIDEN TEAM SAYS THEY - DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC GUIDELINE - FOR CONGRESS BUT THEY SEE THE - NEED IS URGENT TO PASS THIS. - OF COURSE THEY'LL HAVE TO JUGGLE - THAT WITH THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL, - BUT THE BIDEN TEAM IS REALLY - FOCUSING ON THAT. - ANOTHER THING THEY'RE FOCUSING - ON AS YOU LOOK MORE INTO THIS - PLAN, THEY WANT TO TAKE ON - COVID. - THEY WANT TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS - ON RAMPING UP TESTING. - THEY WANT TO RAMP UP VACCINES.

- AND THEY ALSO WANT TO TRY TO GET - SCHOOLS OPEN. - THAT'S WHAT PART OF THIS MONEY - IS GOING TO. - THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE $1,400 - CHECKS TO INDIVIDUALS. - AND THERE'S $400 IN UNEMPLOYMENT - INSURANCE SUPPLEMENT THERE, AND - THAT IS ADDING $100 TO THE $300 - ENACTED. - WHAT BIDEN IS GOING TO SAY - TONIGHT IS THIS ISLET MOST - PRESSING CONCERN, EVEN THOUGH WE - LIVED THROUGH THE SIEGE ON THE - CAPITOL AND OTHER THINGS GOING - ON, HE SAID HE IS FOCUSED ON THE - PANDEMIC THAT IS OF COURSE - KILLING SOME 4,0 PEOPLE A DAY. - >> Woodruff: IT'SOMETHING - THAT IS ON THE MINDS OF EVERYONE - RIGHT NOW. - AND TO YOU, NOW, LISA, AS - YAMICHE MENTIONED, THIS, OF - COURSE, HAS TO PASS THE - CONGRESS. - HE CAN'T JUST WAVE A MAGIC WAND. - BUT CONGRESS HAS A LOT ON ITS - PLATE AS WE MENTIONED. - WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO - BE AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL. - WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW - FOR THE BIDEN COVID PACKAGE AND - EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE TO - DEAL WITH?

- >> Reporter: WELL, THE FIRST - THING THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS - THE TIMING OF THIS SENATE - IMPEACHMENT TRIAL. - AND HERE'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK, - JUDY. - REALLY, HOUSE SPEAKER PELOSI - WILL SET THAT TIMING. - AS SOON AS SHE TRANSMIDST THE - ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT TO THE - SENATE. - BY THE SENATE'S RULES, IT MUST - HOLD THE TRIAL THE NEXT DAY THAT - IT MEETS. - SO THE NEXT DAY THAT THE SENATE - RIGHT NOW IS SCHEDULED TO MEET - IS JANUARY 19, THE DAY BEFORE - INAUGURATION. - IF THE SPEAKER WOULD TRANSMIT - THE ARTICLE THAT DAY, THEN THE - ACTUAL IMPEACHMENT TRIAL COULD - AND WOULD, BY SENATE RULES HAVE, - TO START THE DAY OF - INAUGURATION. - THIS IS AN IDEA THAT SENATOR - McCONNELL, I'VE CONFIRMED, HAS - SENT AROUND TO SENATE - REPUBLICANS. - BUT IT REALLY REMAINS WITH - SPEAKER PELOSI TO DECIDE THE - TIMING. - AND THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER OPTION - THAT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS - IN THE SENATE COULD AGREE ON A - DIFFERENT TIMELINE FOR THE - TRIAL. - BUT THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKELY. - NOW, ALL OF THAT, WE EXPECT THE - TRIAL SOON.

- WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. - ALL OF THAT IS WHILE THERE IS - ANOTHER CONCERN AT THE CAPITOL - BREWING, GROWING CASES OF THE - KOFERS AGAIN, AND SOME OF THEM - SEEMINGLY DIRECTLY LINKED TO - LAST WEEK'S RIOTS. - I WANT TO SHOW A PICTURE OF FOUR - MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE WHO HAVE - CONTRACTED-- WHO ARE COVID - POSITIVE. - AND THREE OF THESE WERE IN - SECLUSION TOGETHER WITH UNMASKED - REPUBLICANS AND A FOURTH MAY - HAVE BEEN AS WELL. - WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR DETAILS. - >> Woodruff: WELL, SO MUCH TO - FOLLOW, LISA. - IT'S THE HEALTH OF THE MEMBERS, - AS WELL AS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO - IN THEIR JOBS. - LISA DESJARDINS, YAMICHE - ALCINDOR, REPORTING ON IT ALL, - THANK YOU, BOTH. - >> Woodruff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER - NEWS, CORONAVIRUS DEATHS IN THE - U.S. ARE NEARING 390,000

- TONIGHT. - THAT INCLUDES ANOTHER 3,900 - DEATHS REPORTED ON WEDNESDAY. - MEANWHILE, INVESTIGATORS FROM - THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION - ARRIVED IN WUHAN, CHINA TODAY, - WHERE THE OUTBREAK BEGAN. - THE LEAD SCIENTIST CAUTIONED - THIS WEEK THAT THEIR WORK WILL - TAKE TIME. - >> I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE - CLEAR ANSWERS AFTER THIS INITIAL - MISSION, BUT WE WILL BE ON THE - WAY AND HOPEFULLY IN THE COMING - MONTHS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY - ADDITIONAL MISSIONS, ADDITIONAL - STUDIES. - >> Woodruff: BEIJING HAS STILL - NOT SAID IF THE W.H.O. - INVESTIGATORS WILL BE ALLOWED TO - GATHER EVIDENCE. - TWO FORMER STATE HEALTH - OFFICIALS IN MICHIGAN WERE - CHARGED WITH INVOLUNTARY - MANSLAUGHTER TODAY, IN THE FLINT - WATER CRISIS. - IT INVOLVES NINE PEOPLE WHO DIED - OF LEGIONNAIRES' DISEASE, FROM - CONTAMINATED WATER. - FORMER GOVERNOR RICK SNYDER IS - FACING MISDEMEANOR COUNTS OF - WILLFUL NEGLECT. - WE'LL GET DETAILS, AFTER THE

- NEWS SUMMARY. - THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S - INSPECTOR GENERAL SAYS AGENCY - LEADERS KNEW THEIR ZERO - TOLERANCE BORDER POLICY WOULD - SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM PARENTS. - TODAY'S REPORT SAYS OFFICIALS - IMPLEMENTED THE POLICY ANYWAY, - IN 2018, WITHOUT PREPARING FOR - THE CONSEQUENCES. - IT EVENTUALLY LED TO MORE THAN - 3,000 FAMILY SEPARATIONS. - NEW YORK STATE SUED NEW YORK - CITY'S POLICE TODAY, CHARGING - EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE ON RACIAL - JUSTICE PROTESTERS, LAST SPRING. - STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA - JAMES SAID IT'S A LONGSTANDING - PROBLEM. - >> THE N.Y.P.D. HAS CONTINUOUSLY - ENGAGED IN SIMILAR UNLAWFUL - EXCESSIVE FORCE AND FALSE ARREST - PRACTICES WHILE POLICING LARGE - SCALE PROTEST. - AND EVEN THOUGH THE N.Y.P.D. - KNEW THIS, THEY STILL FAILED TO - PUT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN - PLACE AND TO DISCIPLINE OFFICERS - TO CORRECT THESE EGREGIOUS - ACTIONS. - >> Woodruff: MAYOR BILL DE - BLASIO SAID HE AGREES ON THE - NEED FOR REFORMS, BUT THAT A

- LAWSUIT IS NOT THE ANSWER. - IN UGANDA, A PRESIDENTIAL - ELECTION WENT AHEAD TODAY AFTER - WIDESPREAD VIOLENCE AIMED AT THE - OPPOSITION. - MILITARY FORCES PATROLLED - POLLING STATIONS IN KAMPALA. - BUT VOTE - DISTANCING, DESPITE THE - PANDEMIC. - PRESIDENT YOWERI MUSEVENI HAS - HELD POWER SINCE 1986, AND IS - RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, PRESIDENT- - ELECT BIDEN TAPPED DAVID - NORQUIST TO BE ACTING DEFENSE - SECRETARY ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. - HE IS NOW DEPUTY SECRETARY. - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTS - NORQUIST WILL SERVE - UNTIL RETIRED GENERAL LLOYD - AUSTIN IS CONFIRMED AS DEFENSE - SECRETARY BY THE U.S. SENATE. - AUSTIN FIRST NEEDS A - CONGRESSIONAL WAIVER BECAUSE - HE'S BEEN RETIRED LESS THAN - SEVEN YEARS. - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS - ROLLING BACK MORE VIRONMENTAL - PROTECTIONS IN ITS FINAL DAYS. - THIS TIME IT INVOLVES THE - NORTHERN SPOTTED OWL.

- THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE - SAID TODAY THAT MILLIONS OF - ACRES OF PACIFIC NORTHWEST - FORESTS WILL BE OPENED TO TIMBER - HARVESTING. - THAT'S MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE - OWL'S HABITAT. - THE LABOR DEPARTMENT REPORTS - GROWING ECONOMIC DAMAGE FROM THE - SURGE IN COVID INFECTIONS. - SOME 965,000 PEOPLE FILED - UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS LAST WEEK, - THE MOST SINCE AUGUST. - BUT, IN AN ONLINE FORUM TODAY, - THE CHAIR OF THE FEDERAL - RESERVE, JEROME POWELL, SAID - INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT MAY RECOVER - SOON. - >> THE KEY THING THERE IS MAYBE - WE'LL BE ABLE TO AVOID A LOT OF, - A LOT OF THE DAMAGE TO PEOPLE'S - LIVES, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CALL - LABOR MARKET SCARRING, BUT WHAT - REALLY AMOUNTS TO PEOPLE LOSING - THE LIFE THEY'VE MADE IN THE - WORKFORCE. - >> Woodruff: POWELL ALSO SAID - AGAIN THAT THE FED DOES NOT - EXPECT TO RAISE INTEREST RATES - ANY TIME SOON. - AND, ON WALL STREET, STOCKS - DRIFTED LOWER, AS INVESTORS - WAITED FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT - BIDEN'S ECONOMIC PLAN.

- THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - LOST 69 POINTS TO CLOSE AT - 30,991. - THE NASDAQ FELL 16 POINTS, AND, - THE S&P 500 SLIPPED 14. - AND, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH 2020 HAS - ESSENTIALLY TIED 2016 FOR THE - HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD. - NASA REPORTS WORLDWIDE - TEMPERATURES KEPT RISING IN - 2020. - THAT CAME EVEN THOUGH GREENHOUSE - GAS EMISSIONS DROPPED DUE TO THE - PANDEMIC. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN - IS CHARGED WITH MISHANDLING THE - FLINT WATER CRISIS. - MANY BUSINESSES DISTANCE - THEMSELVES FROM THE PRESIDENT - AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. - THE CAPITOL RIOT RAISES - QUESTIONS ABUT THE FUTURE OF - THE G.O.P. - AND MUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: LET'S GET THE - DETAILS NOW ON THE FLINT,

- MICHIGAN STORY WHERE TODAY STATE - PROSECUTORS FILED CHARGES - AGAINST A NUMBER OF HIGH RANKING - GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. - JOHN YANG HAS OUR REPORT. - >> Yang: IT'S ONE OF THE WORST - PUBLIC HEALTH FAILURES IN RECENT - HISTORY: THE CONTAMINATION OF - FLINT, MICHIGAN'S DRINKING - WATER, BLAMED FOR AT LEAST A - DOZEN DEATHS AND HEALTH PROBLEMS - FOR COUNTLESS OTHERS. - TODAY, NEARLY SEVEN YEARS AFTER - THE FLINT WATER CRISIS FIRST - EMERGED, PROSECUTORS ANNOUNCED - 41 CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST NINE - FORMER STATE AND CITY OFFICIALS. - MICHIGAN SOLICITOR GENERAL FADWA - HAMMOUD: - >> WE MAY NEVER KNOW ALL THE - NAMES OF THOSE WHO HAD THEIR - LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS DESTROYED - BY THIS MAN-MADE CRISIS. - AND ALTHOUGH THE CRIMINAL - JUSTICE SYSTEM ALONE CANNOT - REMEDY ALL THE SUFFERING THAT - EVERY PERSON ENDURED, WE TOOK - OUR PART SERIOUSLY AND WE HOPE - OTHERS WILL DO THE SAME TO - ENSURE THIS NEVER EVER, EVER - HAPPENS AGAIN.

- >> Yang: AMONG THOSE CHARGED: - FORMER MICHIGAN GOVERNOR RICK - SNYDER. - HE PLEADED NOT GUILTTHIS - MORNING TO TWO MISDEMEANOR - CHARGES OF WILLFUL NEGLECT OF - DUTY. - EACH COUNT CARRIES UP TO A YEAR - IN PRISON, OR A $1,000 FINE. - HIS ATTORNEY CALLED THE CHARGE“" - WHOLLY WITHOUT MERIT.” - TWO OTHERS INCLUDING FORMER - STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR, NICK - LYON, WERE EACH CHARGED WITH - NINE COUNTS EACH OF INVOLUNTARY - MANSLAUGHTER-- FELONIES - PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 15 YEARS IN - PRISON. - THE INDICTMENTS SAY THEY FAILED - TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH - AFTER STATE-APPOINTED OFFICIALS - SWITCHED THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY - IN 2014 FROM LAKE HURON TO THE - FLINT RIVER IN A COST-CUTTING - MOVE. - THE MORE-CORROSIVE RIVER WATER - DAMAGED THE CITY'S AGING PIPES, - CAUSING LEAD TO LEACH INTO THE - DRINKING WATER. - ARIANA HAWK'S SON SUFFERED FROM - BLISTERS AND SKIN RASHES. - WHEN WE VISITED HER HOME IN - 2019, SHE TOLD US THE LINGERING

- EFFECTS INCLUDED A LOSS OF - TRUST. - ARE YOU ANGRY? - >> OH YEAH, OF COURSE I'M ANGRY. - I'M-- I'M MORE UPSET AND HURT - THAN ANGER. - IT'S HURTING BECAUSE THESE ARE - PEOPLE WHO WE TRUST EVERYDAY - THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SAY - THAT THIS WAS OKAY. - >> Yang: TESTS TODAY SHOW - FLINT'S WATER IS SAFE TO DRINK, - BUT WORK TO REPLACE THE CITY'S - DAMAGED PIPES IS STILL - INCOMPLETE. - FLINT ACTIVIST MELISSA MAYS: - >> IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN - FORGOTTEN. - AND NOBODY'S SITTING IN JAIL. - IF I POISONED YOU, I WOULD BE IN - JAIL. - WE'RE COMING UP ON SEVEN YEARS - OF BEING IN A PRISON WHERE WE - CAN'T EVEN BE SAFE IN OUR OWN - HOMES. - AND THEN, OF COURSE, UNDER - COVID, WE'VE ALL BEEN LOCKED - INDOORS AND WE'RE STUCK USING - THIS WATER. - >> Yang: COMPOUNDING A SITUATION - THAT STILL DOMINATES LIFE IN - THIS MAJORITY-BLACK CITY. - IN NOVEMBER, THE MICHIGAN - P$6T - FAMILIES TO SETTLE CIVIL - LAWSUITS FROM THE WATER CRISIS. - APPROVAL BY A FEDERAL JUDGE IS - PENDING.

- SANDRA JONES IS THE EXECUTIVE - DIRECTOR OF THE R.L. JONES - COMMUNITY OUTREACH CENTER IN - FLINT. - IT'S BASED AT THE GREATER HOLY - TEMPLE CHURCH OF GOD, WHERE HER - HUSBAND IS A PASTOR. - SANDRA, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION - WHEN YOU HEARD THE NEWS TODAY - ABOUT THE CRIMINAL CHARGES - AGAINST THESE FORMER OFFICIALS, - INCLUDING THE FORMER GOVERNOR? - >> LONG TIME OVERDUE. - AND THIS TIME I HOPE AND PRAY - THAT IT STICKS. - >> Yang: TWO OF THE PEOPLE, - INCLUDING THE FORMER HEALTH - DIRECTOR FOR THE STATE OF - MICHIGAN WERE CHARGED WITH - INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, NINE - COUNTS EACH. - >> IT IS WHAT IT IS. - AND, I MEAN, SO MANY PEOPLE WERE - ACTUALLY AFFECTED. - THESE WERE LIVES. - WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT - PROPERTY. - WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUMAN LIFE. - AND SO I APPLAUD HER FOR WHAT IT - IS THAT SHE'S DOING. - SHE HAS MY SUPPORT. - >> Yang: I HAVE TO ASK YOU, - THERE ARE SOME LAWYERS WHO KNOW

- MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO, WHO - SAY THAT IT MAY BE TOUGH TO GET - CONVICTIONS IN SOME OF THESE - CASES, PARTICULARLY AGAINST THE - FORMER GOVERNOR, RICK SNYDER, - BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG. - IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS SINCE - THE-- HIS ACTION OR INACTION - THAT HE'S CHARGED FOR. - HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IT - MIGHT FEEL LIKE, HOW YOU MIGHT - FEEL IF THE FORMER GOVERNOR AND - IF SOME OF THESE OTHER OFFICIALS - ARE ACQUITTED IN COURT? - OR DO YOU THINK IT'S ENOUGH THAT - THEY'VE GOT TO STAND UP AND FACE - THESE CHARGES IN COURT? - >> NO, IT ISN'T ENOUGH THAT THEY - HAVE TO FACE THE CHARGES IN - COURT. - THAT'S-- THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. - HOW COULD THAT BE ENOUGH WHEN - YOU LOOK AT RIGHT NOW, TODAY, - CHILDREN THAT ARE FIVE AND SIX - YEARS OLD, THAT HAVE COGNITIVE - SKILL PROBLEMS? - CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS HAVE NOT - BEEN ABLE TO POTTY TRAIN THEM AT - THE AGE OF THREE. - HOW IS IT ENOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE - ADULTS WHO HAD LEGIONS ALL OVER

- THEIR BODIES, AND NOW THEY HAVE - DIFFERENT KINDS OF ALLERGIES - THAT THEY'VE GOT TO LIVE WITH - THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. - AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT - THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS THAT LEAD - ACTUALLY HAS, BECAUSE AFTER 28 - DAYS AND YOU'VE INGESTED IT, - SOME OF US DON'T EVEN ACTUALLY - KNOW IF IT'S AFFECTED US OR NOT. - SO, NO, I REALLY DON'T HAVE... - I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THEM. - I JUST HOPE THAT SHE HAS ENOUGH - INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO BRING - THESE CHARGES AND TO HAVE THESE - CHARGES TO STICK. - >> Yang: SO YOU'RE NOT GOING - TO BE SATISFIED UNTIL THEY'RE-- - YOU GET SOME CONVICTIONS OUT OF - THIS. - >> SOME FORM OF PENALTY EDS TO - BE MADE. - AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT - MONETARY. - I THINK THAT WHEN YOU KNOW - SOMETHING THAT WILL CREATE A - PHYSICAL CONDITION IN A HUMAN - BODY, AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY

- TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, - WHERE YOU PUT MONEY ABOVE HUMAN - LIFE, OH, YEAH. - YOU-- YOU NEED TO PAY FOR THAT. - I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE - PENALTY SHOULD BE BECAUSE I'M - NOT PROFICIENT IN THAT AREA. - I CAN ONLY TELL YOU AS A HUMAN - BEING WHO HAS WORKED IN THE - COLD, IN THE HEAT, IN THE SNOW, - IN THE RAIN, IN ALL TYPES OF - WEATHER AT 73 YEARS OLD, WHEN I - STARTED THIS, I WAS IN MY 60s. - AND I'M 73. - AND TODAY WAS OUR WATER AND FOOD - DISTRIBUTION DAY. - WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS STILL - LINED UP FOR OVER A MILE AND A - HALF, JUST TO GET FOUR OR FIVE - CASES OF WATER BECAUSE EITHER - THEY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE - WATER OR THEY DON'T TRUST THE - WATER, SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE - ACCOUNTABILITY.

- MICHIGAN HAS HAD OTHER CITIES - SINCE OUR WATER CRISIS TO HAVE - BEEN AFFECTED ONE WAY OR THE - OTHER, BUT THEIR WATER HAS BEEN - AFFECTED. - GUESS WHAT? - THOSE CITIES HAVE BEEN CLEANED - UP, CLEARED UP, AND EVERYBODY'S - ON THEIR WAY. - WE'RE THE ONLY ONES STILL - LIMPING. - >> Yang: YOU TALK ABOUT THE - CHILDREN, THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS. - YOUR CHURCH STILL GIVING OUT - WATER AND FOOD EVERY WEEK. - CAN YOU ENVISION A DAY WHEN THIS - IS JUST AN UNPLEASANT INCIDENT - IN THE HISTORY OF FLINT, RATHER - THAN A HERE-AND-NOW PROBLEM? - >> NO. - I CANNOT ENVISION THAT DAY. - AND I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU - WHY. - BECAUSE WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME - THROUGH THE LINE, THEY COME IN - ALL KIND OF CONDITIONS. - THEY START LINING UP AT OUR - CHURCH AT 4:30 A.M. IN THE - MORNING. - UNTIL I SEE ALL OF THE PIPES IN

- THIS CITY CHANGED OUT, UNTIL I - SEE THE RESIDENTS AND OUR LINES - START GETTING SHORTER AND - SHORTER AND SHORTER, THEN MAYBE - I CAN LOOK UP AND FEEL THAT - THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER. - BUT I DON'T SEE IT TODAY. - >> Yang: SANDRA JONES, FROM - THE HOLY TEMPLE CHURCH OF GOD, - IN FLINT, MICHIGAN, TALKING - ABOUT THE ONGOING PROBLEMS - THERE. - SANDRA, YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR - CHECK WUINGS TODAY AND STILL - CARING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT - WE'RE FACING IN FLINT, MICHIGAN. - CH APPRECIATED. - >> Woodruff: SINCE LAST WEEK'S - RIOTS AT THE CAPITOL, MORE AND - MORE COMPANIES ARE CUTTING TIES - WITH DONALD TRUMP, ENDING

- BUT IN JUST A MATTER OF DAYS, - THAT PATTERN GREW SUBSTANTIALLY - AS CORPORATIONS ALSO ARE - STOPPING POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS - TO MORE THAN 147 POLITICIANS WHO - REFUSED TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION - AND BACKED THE PRESIDENT. - ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL - SOLMAN LOOKS WHAT WAS HAPPENING - BEHIND THE SCENES, PART OF HIS - ONGOING REPORTING FOR "MAKING - SENSE." - >> Reporter: JUDD LEGUM WRITES A - POLITICAL NEWSLETTER CALLED - POPULAR INFORMATION. - >> AND WE DO A LOT OF WORK ON - CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY - >> Reporter: WHEN REPUBLICAN - SENATORS SAID THEY'D CHALLENGE - THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE RESULTS... - >> WE STARTED PULLING ALL OF THE - F.E.C. RECORDS TO SEE WHAT - CORPORATE PACS HAD BEEN DONATING - TO THAT GROUP. - >> Reporter: AND THEN ALONG CAME - THE RIOTS. - SO HE WROTE TO 144 COMPANIES TO - ASK IF THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO - DONATE TO THE EIGHT SENATORS WHO - SUPPORTED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S - ELECTION FRAUD CLAIMS-- - SUPPORTED THEM EVEN AFTER THE - CAPITOL HAD BEEN BREACHED. - >> BECAUSE ALL OF THE 144 - COMPANIES HAD SUPPORTED ONE OR - MORE OF THOSE SENATORS IN THE

- 2020 ELECTION CYCLE. - >> Reporter: RESULTS? - >> WE GOT AT FIRST A TRICKLE OF - PEOPLE. - >> Reporter: BLUE CROSS BLUE - SHIELD. - COMMERCE BANK. - THE MARRIOTT HOTEL CHAIN, - ANNOUNCING THEY WERE SUSPENDING - DONATIONS NOT JUST TO THE EIGHT - SENATORS BUT TO ALL 147 MEMBERS - OF CONGRESS WHO VOTED AGAINST - CERTIFYING THE ELECTION. - >> AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS - SIGNIFICANT. - ESPECIALLY CORPORATIONS WHEN YOU - LOOK AT THEIR HISTORY, ARE - DONATING THREE TO ONE, FIVE TO - ONE, SIX TO ONE TO REPUBLICANS. - BUT REALLY, IT WAS MARIOTT WHO I - THINK KIND OF SHOOK THE - CORPORATE WORLD. - >> Reporter: AND THEN IT JUST - SNOWBALLED. - AN AVALANCHE. - >> AND NOW PEOPLE THAT WE NEVER - EVEN CONTACTED ARE GETTING IN - TOUCH AND THEY WANT TO MAKE A - STATEMENT. - >> Reporter: WHEN THE TRICKLE - BECAME A SNOWBALL, WHAT DID YOU - THINK? - >> AS SOMEONE WHO FOLLOWS HOW - THESE CORPORATIONS OPERATE, I - REALLY COULDN'T HAVE CONCEIVED - LAST WEEK THAT SO MANY - CORPORATIONS WOULD DO THIS. - >> HAPPY NEW YEAR! - >> Reporter: CPANIES LIKE - HALLMARK, MAKER OF GREETING - CARDS AND SCHMALTZY MOVIES. - ONE OF FOUR DOZEN COMPANIES

- SUSPENDING ALL POLITICAL - DONATIONS. - BUT HALLMARK, SAYS LEGUM... - >> DEMANDED A REFUND FROM THEIR - HOME STATE SENATOR, JOSH HAWLEY. - IT'S A POWERFUL SIGNAL FROM ONE - OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN - KANSAS CITY SAYING THIS SENATOR, - YOUR SENATOR IS NO LONGER - ACCEPTABLE TO US. - WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO - WITH HIM. - >> GIVEN THE SOMETIMES ANODYNE - STATEMENTS THAT YOU SEE INSIDE - HALLMARK GREETING CARDS, TO COME - OUT SO ELOQUENTLY AND SO - POINTEDLY AGAINST THE - ADMINISTRATION, I THOUGHT WAS - VERY COURAGEOUS. - >> Reporter: TOM GLOCER, THE - FORMER C.E.O. OF - THOMSON/REUTERS, MET WITH A - GROUP OF C.E.O.S LAST WEEK AND - AGAIN YESTERDAY. - >> THE MOOD EVEN IN A WEEK HAD - GOTTEN MUCH FIRMER, THAT THE - RIGHT THING TO DO WAS TO IMPEACH - AND REMOVE TRUMP, EVEN WITH A - FEW DAYS REMAINING. - AND THAT BUSINESS HAD AN - IMPORTANT VOICE.

- >> Reporter: COMPANY AFTER - COMPANY HAS NOW BROKEN PUBLICLY - WITH THE PRESIDENT: - DEUTSCHEBANK, HIS BIGGEST - LONGTIME LENDER. - P.G.A. OF AMERICA. - >>TRIPE THE PAYMENT PROCESSOR - SAYS WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW - OUR PRIVATE SERVICE TO BE USED - TO BUY, LET'S SAY, TRUMP - PARAPHERNALIA. - DITTO SHOPIFY, WHICH PROVIDES - THE E-COMMERCE FOUNDATIONS FOR A - LOT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. - >> I FEEL BETRAYED. - >> Reporter: EVEN KEN LANGONE OF - HOME DEPOT, A TRUMP SUPPORTER - FOR YEARS, DENOUNCED HIM - YESTERDAY. - >> LAST WEDNESDAY WAS A DISGRACE - AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED - IN THIS COUNTRY AND IF IT - DOESN'T BREAK EVERY AMERICAN'S - HEART SOMETHING'S WRONG. - IT BREAKS MY HEART. - I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT. - >> HELLO, I'M MIKE LINDELL, - INVENTOR OF MY PILLOW. - >> WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERHAPS - MR. PILLOW, I WOULD BE SURPRISED - IF ANY COMPANY EXEC NOW THOUGHT - THAT THE BEST THING FOR HIS OR - HER COMPANY WAS TO WAS TO - SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION. - >> THIS IS SO UNPRECEDENTED. - >> Reporter: AND, SAYS SHEILA

- KRUMHOLZ, WHO RESEARCHES MONEY - AND POLITICS... - >> FOR SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, - THIS BAN ON CORPORATE PAC - SUPPORT WILL REALLY HIT THEM IN - THE WALLET. - IT WILL BE A VERY MEANINGFUL - LOSS. - >> Reporter: IF THE BAN LASTS, - THAT IS. - BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S FALLOW SEASON - FOR ELECTIONEERING. - >> THIS IS JANUARY OF THE OFF - ELECTION YEAR IN A MIDTERM - ELECTION CYCLE. - BUT IN 2022, WHEN PRIMARIES ARE - UNDERWAY AND THE NOVEMBER - ELECTION LOOMS, THESE COMPANIES - WILL BE ASKED FOR SUPPORT. - >> Reporter: SO IS IT ALL JUST A - P.R. MOVE? - COMPANIES SEEMING TO HAVE A - CONSCIENCE, TILL THEY NEED - LEGISLATORS ONCE MORE? - NO SAYS EX-C.E.O. GLOCER; - THERE'S A DEEPER MOTIVATION. - >> BUSINESSES GENERALLY DON'T - LIKE TO BRING POLITICS INTO - THEIR COMPANIES, PARTLY, THEY - DON'T WANT TO ANTAGONIZE - CUSTOMERS OR EVEN THEIR OWN - EMPLOYEE BASE. - BUT WHEN THE ATTACKS GO TO THE - HEART OF THE SOCIAL FABRIC, THE

- DEMOCRATIC NORMS OF THE COUNTRY, - WHICH WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE - TO RUN THE BUSINESS, THEN I - THINK BUSINESS PEOPLE - RELUCTANTLY DO SHOW UP AND, AND - >> Reporter: LAST QUESTION FOR - SHEILA KRUMHOLZ. - DO YOU THINK THIS COULD BE A BAD - THING IN THE END BY MAKING - CORPORATIONS MORE POLITICAL? - >> CORPORATIONS ARE ALREADY - POLITICAL. - THEY WILL BE SEEKING ACCESS AND - INFLUENCE WITH MEMBERS OF - CONGRESS, INCLUDING THESE - OBJECTORS, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE - JURISDICTION THROUGH THEIR - COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. - AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY'RE - SEEKING TO RETAIN CUSTOMERS WHO - MIGHT BE IN A MOOD TO PUNISH - THEM IF THEY GO BACK ON THEIR - PLEDGE AND BEGIN SUPPORTING - THESE MEMBERS AGAIN. - >> Reporter: FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR, PAUL SOLMAN. - >> Woodruff: THE EVENTS AT THE - CAPITOL IN THE PAST WEEK, - BEGINNING WITH A VIOLENT MOB AND

- ENDING WITH THE SECOND - IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP, - HAVE EXPOSED DEEP RIFTS WITHIN - THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. - WITH MR. TRUMP SET TO LEAVE - OFFICE NEXT WEEK, WE DISCUSS THE - FUTURE OF THE G.O.P. WITH: - LANHEE CHEN. - HE IS A FELLOW AT THE HOOVER - INSTITUTIOAND HAS ALSO ADVISED - SEVERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL - CANDIDATES INCLUDING MITT ROMNEY - AND MARCO RUBIO. - AND GARY ABERNATHY. - HE IS AN OHIO BASED WRITER AND - CONTRIBUTING COLUMNIST TO THE - "WASHINGTON POST." - HELLO TO BOTH OF YOU. - GOOD TO SEE YOU. - AND WELCOME BACK TO THE - NEWSHOUR. - LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, BEFORE WE - TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE - PARTY, LANHEE CHEN, ABOUT WHAT - HAPPENED LAST WEEK. - THE ASSAULT ON THE CAPITOL AND - THEN JUST YESTERDAY, THE - IMPEACHMENT OF THE PRESIDENT. - WHAT'S YOUR REACTION? - >> WELL, IT'S BEEN SUCH A - TUMULTUOUS AND HEARTWRENCHING - LAST WEEK. - I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAD A CLIP - EARLIER OF KEN LANGONE WHO SAID - ANY AMERICAN WHO LOOKS AT THAT - AND DOESN'T FIND THEMSELVES - AFFECTED IN AN EMOTIONAL WAY, - IT'S HARD TO FATHOM THAT. - AND I DO THINK THAT THAT IS - REALLY DRIVEN SOME OF THE

- CHANGES WE'VE SEEN IN OPINION, - EVEN WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN - PARTY, EVEN AMONGST ELECTED - OFFICIALS WHO WE THOUGHT WERE - GOING TO BE LOYAL WITH DONALD - TRUMP TO THE END. - THAT HAS REALLY FORCED A CHANGE - IN THINKING, EVEN AMONG SOME WHO - WE NEVER EXPECTED TO SEE THAT - FROM. - SO THE EVENTS OF THE LAST WEEK - TRULY HAVE BEEN CONSEQUENTIAL - AND IMPORTANT, NOT JUST FOR THIS - MOMENT THAT WE'RE IN, JUDY, BUT - ALSO FOR WHAT IS TO COMEOR THE - REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE MONTHS - AND YEARS AHEAD. - >> Woodruff: WELL, LET ME TRY - YOU, GARY ABERNATHY. - WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO WHAT - HAPPENED LAST WEEK, THE ASSAULT - ON THE CAPITOL, AND THEN THE - IMPEACHMENT OF THE PRESIDENT, - SECOND IMPEACHMENT? - >> WELL, IT WAS-- IT WAS A SAD - DAY. - IT WAS FRIGHTENING TO WATCH. - YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TRUMP - SUPPORTERS ARE KIND OF TORN - RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ALMOST - FEEL LIKE THEY'VE STOOD BY HIM - FOR FOUR YEARS, AND SO THEY HAVE - TO KEEP STANDING BY HIM. - AND I THINK THAT'S THE WRONG - ATTITUDE. - I'M GLAD DONALD TRUMP WAS

- PRESIDENT FOR FOUR YEARS. - BUT SINCE HE LOST THE ELECTION, - I'M VERY UNHAPPY WITH HIS - BEHAVIOR SINCE THEM. - I CALLED ON HIM SINCE THE DAY - THE RAY WAS CALLED FOR JOE BIDEN - TO ADMIT DEFEAT, TO ACCEPT IT, - TO PARTICIPATE IN THE - TRANSITION, AND HE'S JUST DONE - NONE OF THAT. - MY DIVIDING LINE WITH TRUMP IS - FROM THE DAY THE ELECTION WAS - HELD, AND THE VOTERS SAID WE'RE - GOING TO GO A DIFFERENT - DIRECTION, AND HE NEEDED TO - ACCEPT THAT. - AND SO, INSTEAD, HE'S PLAYED3 - THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THE - ELECTION WAS STOLEN, AND THERE'S - BEEN FRAUD, AND NONE OF THESE - THINGS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TRUE. - AND THEN YOU HAD THOUSANDS, TENS - OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN - WASHINGTON WHO WERE BIG - SUPPORTERS OF HIS, AND INSTEAD - OF CALMING THEM, YOU KNOW, HE - HELPED INCITE WHAT HAPPENED. - I'M NOT LAYING IT ALL AT HIS - FEET. - PEOPLE WHO STORMED THE CAPITOL - ARE TO BLAME FOR STORMING THE - CAPITOL. - BUT DONALD TRUMP AS PRESIDENT, I - THINK, HAD A RESPONSIBILITY TO - CALM THOSE WATERS, AND HE WENT - THE OPPOSITE WAY. - AND SO, YOU KNOW, HE'LL PAY A - POLITICAL PRICE FOR THAT, AS I - THINK HE SHOULD.

- >> Woodruff: AND, LANHEE CHEN, - NOW THAT HE'S IMPEACHED, WE'RE - WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN - THE SENATE. - HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE - FOR THE PARTY, FOR HIM-- - CLEARLY, IF HE'S TRIED AND - CONVICTED, EVEN AFTER HE'S LEFT - OFFICE. - THAT'S A HUGE CHANGE IN HIS - STATURE. - BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT HE - EVEN HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS? - >> WELL I THINK THE CRITICAL - QUESTION IS WHETHER IN FACT HE - CAN BE CONVICTED AND THEN - SUBSEQUENTLY, IF THERE ARE A - MAJORITY OF SENATORS WHO WISH TO - BAR HIM FROM FUTURE OFFICE. - THAT WOULD BE AN EVENT OF GREAT - CONSEQUENCE, OBVIOUSLY. - I DO THINK, AT SOME LEVEL, - DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO - CONTINUE TO HAVE INFLUENCE. - I THINK THAT INFLUENCE WILL - DIMINISH AS HIS TIME IN THE - PRESIDENCY, AS WE GET FURTHER - FROM THAT TIME AND AS PEOPLE ARE - ABLE TO REFLECT ON JUST HOW - CHAOTIC NOT JUST THIS - POSTELECTION PERIOD WAS, BUT - REALLY THE ENTIRE TERM OF HIS - PRESIDENCY. - AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE - LASTING IMPACTS OF THAT ARE ON - THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT, ON - THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, I DO

- EXPECT THAT SUPPORT TO ERODE AS - TIME GOES ON. - THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE SOME - PERCENTAGE OF REPUBLICAN - VOTERS-- THERE'S NO QUESTION - ABOUT IT-- WHO ADHERE TO - PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO BELIEVE - THAT HE IS THE RIGHT MESSENGER. - BUT CERTAINLY, IF THE SENATE - DOES, INDEED, VOTE TO CONVICT - AND SUBSEQUENTLY TO BAR HIM FROM - OFFICE, THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR - BLOW, NOT JUST TO DONALD TRUMP'S - POLITICAL FORTUNES, BUT ALSO TO - HIS PERSONAL FUTURE, HIS ABILITY - TO MONETIZE HIS TIME IN THE - PRESIDENCY, AND EVERYTHING ELSE - THAT HE MIGHT HAVE WISHED TO DO - AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE. - >> Woodruff: GARY ABERNATHY, - WHAT ABOUT THAT? - I MEAN, HOW MUCH-- HOW MUCH - CLOUT WILL DONALD TRUMP CONTINUE - TO HAVE? - AND, OBVIOUSLY, TO SOME DEGREE, - OR MAYBE A LARGE DEGREE, THAT - DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SENATE DOES. - >> I THINK THAT'S TRUE. - NOW, I'M IN THE CAMP THAT AGREES - WITH SCHOLARS WHO SAY, LOOK, THE - WHOLE IDEA OF IMPEACHMENT IS TO - REMOVE A PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE. - AND SO, HE'S GOING TO BE REMOVED - FROM OFFICE BY THE VOTERS IN - JUST A FEW DAYS. - I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE AN - IMPEACHMENT TRIAL-- I DON'T - BLAME THE HOUSE FOR IMPEACHING

- HIM. - I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENED WAS - HORRIBLE. - BUT I THINK THERE'S AN EMOTIONAL - IMPEACHMENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW. - I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CONVICT - HIM AFTER HE'S NO LONGER IN - OFFICE. - THERE'S NO POINT IN THAT. - BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING-- - HE STILL HAS TREMENDOUS SUPPORT - IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. - SOMEONE ASKED ME, "GEE, ARE WE - GOING TO END UP WITH A DEMOCRAT - PARTY, A REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND A - TRUMP PARTY?" - AND I SAID, WELL, YOU COULD, BUT - THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO - BE PRETTY SMALL, BECAUSE WHEN - YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS AND SEE - 80%, 85% SUPPORT STILL IN THE - REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR DONALD - TRUMP, THAT'S PRETTY - IMPRESSIVE." - >> Woodruff: LANHEE CHEN, WHAT - DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LOOK - LIKE WITH THAT MUCH SUPPORT - STILL-- I KNOW YOU BOTH ARE - SAYING HE MAY LOSE SOME OF THAT - SUPPORT, BUT THE NUMBERS GARY IS - CITING ARE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. - I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT-- WHERE - DOES THAT LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN - PARTY? - >> THEY ARE IMPRESSIVE TODAY. - I DON'T KNOW HOW DURABLE THAT - SUPPORT IS WHEN THE MAN IS NO - LONGER IN OFFICE.

- FUNDAMENTALLY, I THINK THE - CHALLENGE FOR THE REPUBLICAN - PARTY NOW IS THIS: FOR LAST - SEVERAL YEARS, IT HAS BEEN A - PARTY ESSENTIALLY SUPPORTIVE OF - WHATEVER THE PRESIDENT AND HIS - ADMINISTRATION DID. - AND THAT NOW LEAVES THEM IN A - POSITION, OF COURSE, WITHOUT - POWER IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, - WITHOUT POWER IN EITHER BRANCH - OF CONGRESS AND I THINK THE - REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TO RETURN - TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT'S - FOR. - WHAT EXACTLY THE VISION OF - GOVERNANCE FOR CONSERVATIVES - LOOKING AHEAD. - AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE THE - BASIS OF ANY ELECTORAL - RENAISSANCWE'RE GOING TO SEE - FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOVING - AHEAD. - AND I TEND TO THINK THAT DONALD - TRUMP'S APPEAL WITH THE PASSAGE - OF TIME, WITH SPACE FROM THE - PRESIDENCY, AND EVERYTHING THAT - WE'VE SEEN, I THINK SOME OF THAT - SUORT ERHODES. - I THINK THAT HAPPENS NATURALLY - FOR A LOT OF POLITICIANS WHO ARE - OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT IN A WAY - THAT A PRESIDENT IS CONSTANTLY - IN THE SPOTLIGHT. - I SUPPOSE THAT WHAT WE SEE TODAY - I DON'T BELIEVE WILL BE A - REFLECTION, NECESSARILY, OF - WHERE THE PARTY STANDS, LET'S - SAY A YEAR OR TWO YEARS FROM - NOW, WHEN WE'RE IN THE WAKE OF - YET ANOTHER MIDTERM ELECTION. - >> Woodruff: AND JUST IN - LITERALLY 15 SECONDS, GARY

- ABERNATHY, REPUBLICAN PARTY IN - SOME TROUBLE IN THE MONTHS, - WEEKS-- MONTHS AND YEARS AHEAD - BECAUSE OF THIS? - >> YEAH, BUT I DO THINK IT'S - IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THIS: THE - THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP-- THE - THINGS THAT BROUGHT HIM HIS - SUPPORT, THOSE AREN'T GOING - AWAY. - I DON'T THINK TRUMP WILL BE THE - MESSENGER FOR THE PARTY FOUR - YEARS FROM NOW, BUT I THINK A - LOT OF THE THINGS HE STOOD FOR - WILL BE, AND IT WILL JUST BE - SOMEONE ELSE CARRYING THAT - MANTLE. - >> Woodruff: GARY ABERNATHY, - LANHEE CHEN, THANK YOU BOTH VERY - MUCH, GOOD TO SEE YOU. - >> THANK YOU, JUDY. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: AS THE DAYS DWINDLE - IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, - THEY ARE STILL ISSUING RULES AND - REGULATIONS, SANCTIONS AND - DESIGNATIONS THAT COULD HAVE - IMPACT BOTH ABROAD AND AT HOME, - BEYOND THE END OF THE

- ADMINISTRATION. - HERE'S WILLIAM BRANGHAM. - >> Brangham: THANKS JUDY. - IT IS SOMEWHAT CUSTOMARY FOR A - PRESIDENT TO ISSUE A SLEW OF - ORDERS AND OTHER REGULATIONS - BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE. - AND MR. TRUMP IS NO DIFFERENT. - BUT, FROM IRAN TO YEMEN, CUBA TO - CHINA, AND ON THE ENVIRONMENT, - THIS ADMINISTRATION IS ISSUING - ORDERS THAT COULD HAVE DEEP, - LONG-LASTING EFFECTS. - WITH ME NOW IS FOREIGN AFFAIRS - CORRESPONDENT NICK SCHIFRIN. - NICK, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE - SPECIFICS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE - OVERALL SWEEP OF WHAT THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION IS DOING, IS THIS - JUST NORMAL DIPLOMAT BUSINESS - THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY - ADMINISTRATION, OR IS THIS - DIFFERENT? - >> Schifrin: LONGTIME - DIPLOMATS CALL "THE SLEW" AS YOU - JUST CALLED IT, WILLIAM, - SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL BECAUSE MOST - ADMINISTRATIONS DO HOLD OFF ON - MAJOR POLICY DECISIONS AS - THEY'RE HEADING OUT THE DOOR. - SENIOR TRUMP ADMINISTRATION - OFFICIALS INSIST TO ME THEY HAVE - BEEN PUSHING THESE POLICIES FOR - MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS, AND ARE - MAKING THEM PUBLICLY WITH HOPES - THEY WILL SURVIVE THE

- TRANSITION. - BUT, WILLIAM, THEY DO HAVE - POLITICAL SIDE EFFECTS. - THEY CAN HAMSTRING THE BIDEN - TEAM AND ALLOW POLITICIANS FROM - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO - CRITICIZE BIDEN IF HE CHANGES - THEIR POLICIES. - >> Brangham: SO LET'S WALK - THROUGH SOME OF THOSE MAJOR - ONES. - LET'S START WITH CHINE. - >> Schifrin: PERHAPS THE MOST - SIGNIFICANT MOVES HAS BEEN ON - CHINA. - THIS WEEK, THE DEPARTMENT OF - HOMELAND SECURITY BANNED ALL - COTTON AND TOMATOES FROM THE - REGION WHERE BEIJING - SYSTEMATICALLY PERCEES CUTE WHAT - THE USE CALLS WIDESPREAD FORCED - LARP. - EARLIER TODAY I SPOKE WITH - BRENDA SMITH: - >> WE'VE WORKED OVER THE LAST - REALLY ALMOST TWO YEARS TO - IDENTIFY SPECIFIC ENTITIES THAT - USE FORCED LABOR. - NOW WE BELIEVE IT'S AT A SCALE - THAT THE ENTIRE REGION IS REALLY - IMPLICATED OR AT HIGH RISK OF - USING FORCED LABOR IN THOSE - PRODUCTION PROCESSES. - >> Schifrin: NOW BECAUSE OF - COMPLICATED SUPPLY CHAINS, IT IS - NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY - ENFORCE THIS ACTION. - BUT BY DOING SO, IT IS FORCING

- COMPANIES TO EXAMINE AND CHANGE - THEIR SUPPLY CHAINS. - AND THAT MEANS THIS THAT - DECISION COULD AFFECT 20% OF THE - WORLD'S COTTON. - NOW, THERE ARE ALSO WHITE HOUSE - MOVES, INCLUDING EXECUTIVE - ORDERS THAT WOULD RESTRICT - AMERICANS FROM INVESTING IN - CERTAIN CHINESE BUSINESSES AND - BANS ON CHINESE APPS. - AND THEN THERE'S TAIWAN. - FOR DECADES THE WHITE HOUSE HAS - RESTRICTED BILATERAL MEANINGS - AND THE STATUS OF ITS COMES THAT - WORK ON TAIWAN AS PART OF ITS - RELATIONSHIP WITH BEIJING. - BUT LAST WEEKEND, SECRETARY OF - STATE MIKE POMPEO, DECLARED ANY - RESTRICTIONS, "NULL AND VOID." - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, - FRANKLY, HAD ALREADY BEEN - PUSHING THE BOUNDARIES ON THOSE - RESTRICTIONS. - BUT THE TAINT BASICALLY DECIDED - TO BLOW THEM UP, RATHER THAN - REWRITE THEM. - THE IMPLICATION, POMPEO, OF - COURSE, GETS TO CRITICIZE THE - BIDEN TEAM FOR BEING SOFT ON - CHINA IF THEY GO BACK TO THE OLD - RESTRICTIONS. - AND THE BIDEN OFFICIALS WHO I'VE - TALKED TO HAVE SAID THAT THEY - WILL RESPECT TRADITIONAL - GUIDELINES ON TAIWAN. - ALTHOUGH, WILLIAM, I SHOULD SAY, - THAT MEMBERS OF THAT TEAM HAVE

- LONG PROMISED TO CONFRONT - BEIJING AND SUPPORT TAIWAN. - >> Brangham: A LOT OF MOVES ON - THAT FRONT ALONE. - BUT LET'S ALSO SHIFT TO THE - MIDDLE EAST. - WE KNOW IRAN HAS BEEN A - PREOCCUPATION OF THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION, AND SINCE THE - ELECTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT - HAS NOT CHANGED A WID BIT. - >> Schifrin: YEAH, THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATIONAS SANCTIONED - MORE THAN TWO DOZEN IRANIAN - ENTITIES SIN THE ELECTION. - THAT'S ON TOP OF 1,500 SANCTIONS - SINCE 2017, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT - RHETORICAL FLOURISH WAS POMPEO - TYING IRAN TO AL QAEDA. - >> AL QAEDA HAS - CRITICALLIZEDLEADERSHIINSIDEN - OF IRAN. - >> Schifrin: THAT IS AN - CONCLUSION INTELLIGENCE - OFFICIALS TELL ME IS MORE - OPINION THAN A PROVABLE FACT. - THE PERHAPS THE MOST - CONTROVERSIAL DECISION MADE HAS - BEEN ABOUT YEMEN, WHERE WAR HAS - KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF - PEOPLE. - A SOWD I-LED COALITION HAS BEEN - TRYING TO UNSEAT HUTHY REBELS - WHO TOOK CONTROL OF THE REBEL - BACK IN 2014. - THEY ARE BACKED BY IRAN. - THIS WEEKEND, POMPEO DECLARES - THE HUTHIES A TERRIFS - ORGANIZATION.

- THAT DECISION WAS QUICKLY AND - WIDELY CONDEMNED BY - HUMANITARIANS WHO SAY IT WILL - ONLY MAKE THE WORLD'S WORST - HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WORSE. - LISTEN TO FORMER REPUBLICAN - GOVERNOR DAVID BEASLY BRIEFING - THE SECURITY COUNCIL. - >> IT'S GOING TO BE - CATASTROPHIC. - IT LITERALLY IS GOING TO BE A - DEATH SENTENCE TO HUNDREDS OF - THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF - INNOCENT PEOPLE IN YEMEN. - IT NEEDS TO BE REEVALUATED AND, - QUITE FRANKLY, IT NEEDS TO BE - REVERSED. - >> Schifrin: ALL OF THIS HAS - BEEN HAPPENING AS IRAN HAS TAKEN - MAJOR STEPS TO ADVANCE ITS - NUCLEAR PROGRAM JUST IN THE LAST - FEW WEEKS, INCLUDING ENRICHING - URANIUM TO 20%. - NOW, CRITICS OF THESE MOVES, - WILLIAM, ONCE AGAIN DESCRIBE - THEM AS AN ATTEMPT TO TIE - BIDEN'S HANDS AHEAD OF PROMISED - DIPLOMACY WITH IRAN. - ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS SAY - THEY'RE FINALLY MAKING POLICY - DECISIONS THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING - FOR MONTHS. - >> Brangham: NICK, THE - SECRETARY OF STATE ALSO PUT CUBA - BACK ON THE LIST OF STATE - SPONSORS OF TERRORISM.

- WHAT'S THE RATIONALFOR THAT? - AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE - BIDEN ADMINISTRATION? - >> YOU'LL RECALL OBAMA VISITED - HAVANA, NORMALIZED RELATIONS AND - REMOVED CUBA FROM THE LIST OF - STATE SPONSORS OF TERRORISM. - THE TRUMP ADNISTRATION SPENT - FOUR YEARS UNDOING THAT EFFORT, - LEADING TO LAST WEEKEND'S - ANNOUNCEMENT. - THE STATE DEPARTMENT CITED - CUBA'S HARBORING OF REBEL - LEADERS FROM COLOMBIA, AS WELL - AS SOME AMERICAN FUGITIVES AND - ITS SUPPORT FOR NICHOLAS MADURO - IN VENEZUELA. - BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAD - ALREADY IMPOSED MANY OF THE - RESTRICTIONS ON CUBA THAT COME - WITH BEING A STATES SPONSOR OF - TERRORISM, WILLIAM, SO THERE'S - NO LARGE PRACTICAL IMPACT. - CRITICS SAY, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S - DESIGNED TO BE A BIT OF A - SPOILER FOR THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION. - >> Brangham: AND THESE - CHANGES, THESE LAST-MINUTE - CHANGES, ALSO ECHO WHAT THE - TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN - DOING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL FRONT - AS WELL WEAPON. - >> Schifrin: VERY QUICKLY, - WILLIAM, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF - PUSH ON ENVIRONMENTAL - REGULATIONS FROM THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION IN THE LAST FOUR - YEARS. - THESE NEW REGULATIONS FOLLOW - THAT PATTERN, GOVERNING - EVERYTHING FROM GREENHOUSE GAS

- EMISONS, SAFETY OF CHEMICALS, - MIGRATORY BIRDS, WHO GETS TO - PROFIT OFF FEDERAL LANDS. - NOT ONLY ARE SOME OF THESE - LAST-MINUTE MOVES CONTROVERSIAL, - OF COURSE, THE ARCTIC DRILLING, - BUT, ALSO, CRITICS SAY THE WAY - SOME OF THESE MOVES HAVE BEEN - MADE WILL MAKE THEM VERY - DIFFICULFOR THE BIDEN - ADMINISTRATION TO UNDO. - >> Brangham: NICK SCHIFRIN, - THANKS FOR KEEPING US ABREAST OF - ALL THIS. - >> Schifrin: THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: FINALLY TONIGHT, - WE TURN TO CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST - RUBY BRIDGES WHO WRITES HER OWN - STORY IN A NEW CHILDREN'S BOOK, - HOPING ADULT EARS WILL LISTEN - TOO IN THESE FRACTURED TIMES. - TELLING HER STORY IS SPECIAL - CORRESPONDENT, CHARLAYNE HUNTER- - GAULT, WHO FOLLOWED IN BRIDGE'S - FOOTSTEPS WHEN 60 YEARS AGO THIS - PAST WEEKEND, WHEN SHE, ALONG - WITH HAMILTON HOLMES, - DESEGREGATED THE UNIVERSITY OF - GEORGIA.

- THIS IS PART OF OUR RACE MATTERS - SOLUTIONS SERIES AND OUR ARTS - AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. - >> Reporter: RUBY BRIDGES' NAME - IS SYNONYMOUS WITH CIVIL RIGHTS - TRAILBLAZING, IMMORTALIZED IN - THIS NORMAN ROCKWELL PAINTING - ENTITLED “THE PROBLEM WE ALL - LIVE WITH.” - BRIDGES HISTORIC MOMENT CAME - WHEN SHE BECAME THE FIRST BLACK - CHILD TO DESEGREGATE AN ALL- - WHITE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN NEW - ORLEANS AT SIX YEARS OLD. - SHE HAD TO BE ESCORTED BY - FEDERAL MARSHALS AS SHE WALKED - PAST LOUD AND UNRULY PROTESTORS - AND INTO THE WILLIAM FRANTZ - ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. - NOW, 60 YEARS LATER, BRIDGES HAS - WRITTEN TO AND FOR CHILDREN THE - SAME AGE OF AS HER YOUNGER SELF. - SHE DESCRIBES IT AS A CALL TO - ACTION AND CONTAINS HISTORICAL - PHOTOS OF HER PIONEERING TIME. - AND PIONEERING HISTORY IS STILL - BEING MADE AND REMEMBERED, - INCLUDING A PHOTO ILLUSTRATION - THAT WENT VIRAL AFTER THE

- ELECTION OF VICE PRESIDENT ELECT - KAMALA HARRIS WALKING ALONGSIDE - THE SHADOW OF RUBY BRIDGES. - RUBY BRIDGES, FIRST, LET ME SAY - AND ON BEHALF OF MY GENERATION - OF CIVIL RIGHTS PIONEERS, LET ME - JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR PAVING - OUR WAY. - NOW, YOU'VE WRITTEN OTHER BOOKS, - BUT THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY - AIMED AT READERS WHO MAY BE AS - YOUNG AS YOU WERE WHEN YOU FIRST - TOOK THOSE HISTORIC STEPS, WHEN - YOU WERE SIX YEARS OLD INTO THE - ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE. - WHY DID YOU DO THIS BOOK? - AND DO YOU SEE SIMILARITIES - BETWEEN THEN AND NOW? - IN SOME WAYS? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - YOU KNOW, BACK IN MARCH, I WAS - SITTING IN FRONT OF MY - TELEVISION ON LOCKDOWN BECAUSE - OF THE VIRUS, LIKE EVERYBODY - ELSE, AND WATCHING FAR TOO MUCH - TV. - BUT WITNESS THIS YOUNG MAN'S

- BRUTAL DEATH, MR. FLOYD, RIGHT - IN FRONT OF MY FACE, LIKE SO - MANY PEOPLE DID, AND I WAS SO - DISTURBED BY IT AND DIDN'T KNOW - HOW TO REACT OR WHAT TO DO, I - FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'D BEEN - SPENDING SO MANY YEARS TALKING - TO KIDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. - AND I KNEW THAT THEY WERE - WATCHING THIS AS WELL AND - PROBABLY WONDERING WHAT WAS - GOING ON. - YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF MY - TIME, I TALKED TO KIDS AND - EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT RACISM - HAS NO PLACE IN THE MINDS AND - HEARTS OF OUR KIDS ACROSS THE - COUNTRY. - AND YET THEY WERE WITNESSING - THIS. - I WAS VERY MOVED BY WHAT I SAW - AFTER HIS DEATH. - I SAW YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE TO THE - STREETS AND I FELT LIKE THE - TORCH HAD BEEN PASSED AND THAT - NOW THEY HAD A CAUSE TO GET - BEHIND. - WHEN DR. KING WAS ASSASSINATED, - I FELT LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE - PICKED THAT TORCH UP AND KEPT IT - MOVING. - EVEN MY OWN EXPERIENCE AFTER - GOING INTO THE SCHOOL, IT WAS - SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

- NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT IN MY - COMMUNITY, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. - IT WAS SWEPT UNDER THE RUG AND - LIFE WENT ON. - I'M HAPPY NOW TO SEE THAT ALL OF - A SUDDEN ACTIVISM IS COOL AGAIN, - YOU KNOW, AND IT SHOULD HAVE - BEEN FROM 1960 UNTIL TODAY, WE - DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF - PASSING THOSE LESSONS ON TO THAT - GENERATION. - >> Reporter: LET'S TALK ABOUT - TEENAGERS AND OTHERS IN THEIR - 20S, WHERE THERE SEEM TO BE EVEN - THOUGH YOU MENTIONED THE BIG - DEMONSTRATIO THAT ARE GOING - ON, MULTIRACIAL, - MULTIGENERATIONAL, LEDY A LOT - OF YOUNG PEOPLE. - BUT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF - YOUNG PEOPLE WHO, THEIR DEEP - DIVISIONS AND, YOU KNOW, FROM - POLITICS EVEN TO WEARING MASKS, - THERE ARE DIVISIONS. - HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN - THAT? - >> WE CANNOT BE A HOPELESS - PEOPLE. - WE HAVE TO BE HOPEFUL. - AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO - DO. - I MEAN, WE ALL SAW THAT THIS - ELECTION, THIS LAST ELECTION - SHOWED US JUST HOW DIVIDED THIS - COUNTRY REALLY IS. - AFTER PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS - ELECTED, IT SEEMED THAT RACISM - REALLY RAISED ITS UGLY HEAD

- AGAIN. - I THINK HAVING A BLACK MAN - ELECTED AS PRESIDENT JUST RILED - THAT ELEMENT UP ALL OVER AGAIN. - PROBABLY THEY FELT LIKE, OH, WE - CAN NOT HAVE THIS HAPPEN. - AND YET IT DID. - AND SO ALL WE NEEDED IS FOR - SOMEONE TO COME ALONG AND, YOU - KNOW, ADD FUEL TO THAT FIRE. - AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY WE - ARE SO DIVIDED TODAY, BECAUSE - >> Reporter: ONE OF THE THINGS - THAT YOU SAY IN THE BOOK IS THAT - YOU BELIEVE THAT RACISM IS, LET - ME READ THIS, A GROWN UP DISEASE - AND THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO THE - CHILDREN NOW, THE YOUNG PEOPLE, - YOU SAY WE ADULTS MUST STOP - USING YOU, OUR KIDS TO SPREAD - IT. - IT'S WE ADULTS WHO PASSED RACISM - ON IN SO MANY WAYS. - I HEAR PEOPLE ALL THE TIME - SAYING, WELL, I WANT TO DO - SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, BUT I - DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. - >> WE ALL KNOW THAT NONE OF OUR - KIDS ARE BORN KNOWING ANYTHING - ABOUT DISLIKING THE CHILD - SITTING NEXT TO THEM. - OUR BABIES DON'T COME INTO THE - WORLD KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT

- RACISM OR DISLIKING SOMEONE - BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR - SKIN. - IT IS LEARNED BEHAVIOR. - AND I BELIEVE THAT IF IT CAN BE - TAUGHT, IT CAN BE TAUGHT NOT TO - NOT TO BE THAT WAY. - YOUR OLDEST WAS INVOLVED IN AN - UNSOLVED MURDER. - WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR MOTHERING - LIKE YOURSELF AND ALSO - PROTESTING THE MURDERS OF BLACK - MEN, ESPECIALLY, BUT ALSO BLACK - WOMEN? - >> THAT IS A PARENT'S WORST - NIGHTMARE. - MY SON'S MURDER WAS NEVER - SOLVED. - WE DO KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO - ACTUALLY TOOK HIS LIFE LOOKED - EXACTLY LIKE HIM. - YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY - PARENTS OUT THERE LIKE MYSELF - AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO - MANY PARENTS OUT THERE LIKE - MYSELF WHO HAVE LOST CHILDREN, - WHETHER IT BE SONS, MY SON'S AGE - OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN BABIES BY - PEOPLE BY GUN VIOLENCE, WHICH IS - VERY, VERY DISHEARTENING. - THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO - DEAL WITH AS WELL. - WHETHER IT'S THE MURDERS, LIKE

- THE MURDER THAT HAPPENED WITH MY - SON OR MURDERS LIKE GEORGE - FLOYD. - IF YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT - THAT, THEN YOU NEED TO DO - SOMETHING ABOUT IT. - >> Reporter: I'M VERY IMPRESSED - WITH YOUR PASSION AND MOVED BY - IT. - AND I WONDER I IMAGINE THERE - MIGHT BE A PART OF YOUR BOOK OR - SOME PART OF YOUR BOOK THAT THAT - YOU THAT IS A FAVORITE OF YOURS. - >> YES, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. I - WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT:“ - WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW GREAT - THIS COUNTRY COULD BE. - AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE, HOME - OF THE BRAVE. - I THINK ABOUT WHAT DR. MARTIN - LUTHER KING JR. SAID ABOUT BEING - GREAT. - EVERYBODY CAN BE GREAT BECAUSE - EVERYBODY CAN SERVE. - YOU ONLY NEED A HEART FULL OF - GRACE. - REALLY, IT IS THAT LOVE AND - GRACE FOR ONE ANOTHER THAT WILL - HEAL THIS WORLD. - >> Reporter: WELL RUBY BRIDGES, - IT'S BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE

- YOU ONCE AGAIN. - YOU ARE A HERO FOR ALL TIME IN - THE BEST OF TIMES, AND IT WILL - ALWAYS BE YOUR TIME. - >> HAPPY NEW YEAR. - THANK YOU. - SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU - AGAIN. - >> Woodruff: THANK YOU, RUBY - BRIDGES, AND THANK YOU, - CHARLAYNE, WORDS TO LIVE BY. - AS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT YOUNG - PEOPLE BEING KEY TO THE FUTURE, - WE HAVE A SPECIAL INAUGURATION - EVENT PLANNED TONIGHT AT 7:00 - P.M. - TONIGHT AT 7:00 P.M. EASTERN. - "WE THE YOUNG PEOPLE" IS A - STUDENT REPORTING LABS SCIAL - FOCUSING ON THE ISSUES THAT GEN - Z CARES ABOUT AND HOW THEY VIEW - THIS VERY CONTENTIOUS MOMENT IN - AMERICA. - IT FEATURES STUDENTS, TEACHERS, - TEEN FACT-CHECKERS AND OUR OWN - AMNA NAWAZ AND YAMICHE ALCINDOR. - HERE IS A PREVIEW. - >> MORE AMERICANS VOTED IN THE - 2020 ELECTION THAN EVER BEFORE, - >> BUT THE AFTERMATH MAGNIFIED - HOW DEEPLY DIVIDED OUR COUNTRY - IS. - >> OUR DEMOCRACY IS BEING - SEVERELY TESTED.

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