The Line; 240; Scot Key and Billy Sparks

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DOMENICI. EVERYBODY ELSE? THE STONEFRIDGE CONTROVERSY IN SANTA FE, TODAY ON THE LINE. ♪♪ >> I'M GENE GRANT, YOUR HOST I'M JOINED THIS WEEK BY AND BLOGGER FOR WEDNESDAY MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR AND WE WELCOME BACK SCOTT KEY, THE NEW MEXICO DEMOCRATIC THIS WEEKEND TO ELECT NEW

SERIOUSLY AT 2008 AND 2010 WHITNEY, LET'S GET THIS GOING HEINRICH LOOKING AT IT. ANY ADVANTAGE? >> YEAH, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOW HEATHER WILSON. CHAIRMANSHIP AS WELL. HAVE AN BIG EFFECT ON WHAT FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS ALL KINDS OF NAMES FLOATING OUT ATTENTION AT THIS POINT, THOUGH. >> IS HE GETTING PUSHED INTO >> I DON'T THINK SO. AROUND AND SEE WHAT EVERYBODY >> SURE. >> WE'VE ALSO GOT, SCOTT KEY,

ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, HE DECIDED STRONG AS HEINRICH'S, IN TERMS MEAN YOU STAND MUCH OF A CHANCE? IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT. LOOKS LIKE A MUCH BETTER >> BILLY SPARKS, THANKS FOR YOU'VE BEEN AROUND A FEW >> JUST A FEW. SOMETHING LIKE >> YEAH. >> FIRST OF ALL, CONGRESSWOMAN DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN TREMENDOUS SUPPORT IN THE REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT DEMOCRATIC IN THE HISTORY OF THE >> GOING BACK TO THE EARLY

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I THINK THAT TO FORMIDABLE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND MORE PARTICULARLY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S STANCE WITH THIS IMBROGLIO HAVING TO DO WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY, WE HAVE THAT BUZZ SAW IS JUST BZZZ. >> LET ME ASK YOU, REPUBLICANS WOULD SAY, "WE'VE HEARD THAT THREE TIMES NOW. >> WELL, I THINK THAT IT WAS A WAS A SITUATION IN WHICH I THINK LESSONS TO THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CANDIDATE

THIS NEXT TIME WHO ISN'T GOING THAT PATSY MADRID MADE. >> I THINK -- TO JUMP IN, I DO THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH, DO. BE JUST AS VULNERABLE, I THINK, THING IS GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT GIVEN POINT, WHICH MEANS HAVE HAPPEN, THE DEMOCRATS ARE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH PATRICIA THE GUY TO UNSEAT HER? IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND >> THE THING ABOUT RUNNING HAS AN EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE, TALKED ABOUT FOR AROUND 12 MORE

THING NOW. NAME NOW, AND THERE'S GOING TO >> HAVE TELEVISION ADS CHANGED GROUP AGAINST HEATHER WILSON >> THE COMPANIES THAT MAKE SORT OF PROCESS AT WORK THAT IS JUST MAKING THIS INDUSTRY OF AND BIGGER, AND IT'S LIKE THE >> I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THIS THIS IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT ON THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT PARTY THAT CONTINUES TO INSIST HEATHER WILSON HAPPENS TO BE ONE BEARERS FOR THAT WAR.

>> THEY'LL KEEP RUNNING ADS. TOO, IT MAY NOT JUST BE MARTIN CONNECTION WITH THIS RACE. ALBUQUERQUE'S BUSINESS BE? I'VE HEARD LOTS OF DIFFERENT NAME HAS BEEN THROWN ABOUT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A STATEMENT NOT THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY CAN STATURE, LIKE MARTIN HEINRICH, CHANCE OF TAKING IT. >> BILLY, THE INTERNAL HEAVY-DUTY NAMES HERE. >> IT PROBABLY WON'T BE PRIMARIES FAMILY FEUDS, AND ALL

THE CANDIDATES. OF CONTROL. CONGRESSIONAL RACE WAS $700,000. SPENDS. >> REAL QUICKLY, WE HAVE A GOING AGAINST HIM. >> NO. RECOGNITION, BECAUSE I DON'T >> I DON'T KNOW WE KNOW YET. THE INVESTIGATIONS ARE HEATING UP. TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THOSE ELECTIONS. BEGINNING TO SEE A NEW CROP OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME VERY

THEIR HATS IN. COUNTY, NICOLE BACA OR SOMETHING >> THAT'S RIGHT. FIRST DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE TO START TELEVISION ADS IN IOWA AND >> HE'S BEEN NOMINATED FOUR TIMES FOR THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, GOVERNORS, WITH MORE INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE THAN BUT WHAT WOULD BILL RICHARDSON HIS LIFE'S WORK HAS BEEN PATIENT, DETERMINED DIPLOMACY

HIGH EXPECTATIONS. OVER 80,000 NEW JOBS, UP TO 6TH MUCH TO PROMOTE RENEWABLE ENERGY HE HAS AN OPTIMISM THAT OUR BECAUSE HE'S DONE IT SO MANY >> I'M BILL RICHARDSON, AND I >> BILLY, THE GOVERNOR IS NOT MONEY TO KEEP THESE ADS UP. >> HE WAS THE ONE WHO RAISED AND DODD, OTHER PEOPLE IN THAT CATEGORY. BELOW 20% IN SOME OF THESE STATES, WHICH IT IS, THEN YOU RECOGNITION POLLS.

MENTION. EDWARDS HAS BEEN OUT THERE THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT YOU STRENGTHS ARE HIS INTERNATIONAL WARMING TRANSFORMATION, AND ALSO HE'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF TAXES, EVERYBODY SAID, "NAW, CAPITAL GAINS IS DOWN 50%. SO HE IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS ALSO, IS >> JIMMY CARTER MADE IOWA AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS

TWO MONTHS BEFORE IOWA'S WON IOWA AND WON EVERYTHING ELSE IMPORTANT IS YOU HAVE IOWA, HAMPSHIRE, AND THEN THE REST OF THOSE STATES AND IF YOU COME IN SO I THINK IOWA IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. FACT OF HIS RECORD, WHAT HE'S RUNNING ON. >> SURE. >> AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF. >> LET ME ASK WHITNEY, WHAT >> I WAS GOING TO SAY BILLY BILLY AND I -- YOU KNOW

(LAUGHTER) -- ANYWAY, ON THE ADS, YES, THEY DO. RIGHT AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW ABILITY TO FUNDRAISE. HOPEFULLY FOR HIM, CONTINUE TO RAISE MONEY. HIS STRENGTHS, TALKED ABOUT HIS RICHARDSON, "THE GOVERNOR WHO HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH HIS NAME. I MEAN, WHEN THEY BROUGHT IN LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DIANE THAT'S THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT UNDO THE DAMAGE, THE ENTIRE AD FORWARD-LOOKING APPROACH, "THIS IS WHAT I'LL DO WHEN I GET

OR LEVERAGE OFF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND -- >> TOO EARLY FOR THAT? >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE TRYING OF A POSITIVE THING, THIS IS >> SURE. IN THE OTHER AD. >> YEAH. >> THAT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING. >> SPEAKING OF NEW MEXICO, I I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CELEBRITIES, THE CITIZENS OF TO SEE ADS ALREADY, IT'S TOO CANDIDATE, AND HE WANTS TO BE AT LEAST THE BOTTOM OF THE TOP >> HE'S GOT $6 MILLION TO PLAY >> HE CONTINUES TO GARNER A LOT TO GIULIANI, WITH GIULIANI

DEMOCRAT WERE ELECTED AND HE WAS >> AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY FROM THREE DAYS AGO. >> ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED MOST EXPERIENCED, BUT HE HAS -- RICHARDSON? HAPPENING, AND THAT RICHARDSON HIMSELF WELL. >> SURE. STRATEGY? >> YOU CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO BY DOING THAT, YOU'RE ESTABLISHING YOUR UNIQUE PLACE. ABOUT FIRST STRIKE. SO YOU HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF IT,

THE OTHER CANDIDATES FOLLOW YOU. >> GOOD DEAL. INTERESTING COINCIDENCE, OR REAL ADVANTAGE THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE OVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS CHARTER SCHOOL GOT IN A BIT OF A STUDENTS, WHICH THEY SAY IS VERY NOT GOING DOWN WELL. >> I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT FOR CHARTERS, SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND HIRE CHARTER SCHOOLS IS GIVEN THAT IT CREATES CHOICE FOR PARENTS, DOES THAT CHOICE LEAD TO BETTER

EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES, AND IF WE LOOK AT THE STUDIES THAT HAVE HIGH-PERFORMING CHARTERS AND THE LOW-PERFORMING CHARTERS, AND ABOUT EQUITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING SCHOOLS. BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT WHERE THERE ARE LARGE CONCENTRATIONS, TROUBLING CONCENTRATIONS OF WHICH NEED TO BE CORRECTED, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT, BUT -- >> LET ME GET TO OUR TEACHER >> THAT'S TRUE, I TAUGHT AT AMY OF BEING THE ESCAPE FROM PUBLIC PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT ESCAPE HAVE THIS PERCEPTION OF PUBLIC

I SEE AT CHARTER SCHOOLS, WITH I'LL GET TO THE LOBBYISTS IN A SCHOOLS, TOO. >> SURE. >> AND I HAVE STUFF IN MY WE HAVE FILM CAMERAS AND ALL SEE PLENTY OF TEACHERS AT ADMINISTRATORS WITH THAT. YES, ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, GOING TO GET, AND INDIVIDUAL APS SCHOOLS DO NOT HIRE LOBBYISTS. SO THE CHARTERS HAVE AN GO BACK TO LET'S THINK ABOUT THE DREAMING THERE, TO GET AWAY FROM NOT ONLY THAT DISCREPANCY BUT

COMPETE ON A PR BASIS, LOBBYING >> WE SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT THESE IPODS WERE NOT THE SOME OF THAT IS ACTUALLY STARTING TO BECOME COMMON AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL, WHICH WAS THIS THEY CAN EXPECT IN COLLEGE. >> I LOVED THIS TOPIC, I LOVED IT. THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES THEM. THEIR KIDS AND WHERE THOSE KIDS SCHOOLS ARE PERFORMING I WOULD AND THE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS. KID'S DOING AND YOU'RE GOING TO CHOICE IS ALL ABOUT.

OTHER PEOPLE AND TO OTHER PLACES DIRECTLY BY APS OR BY THE STATE ABOUT THE LOBBYIST SITUATION, WE MANY, MANY PUBLIC SCHOOLTEACHERS SO THAT'S BEEN A CERTAIN LEVEL ARE ACTUALLY, ALSO, WORK FOR UNFORTUNATELY, OUR STATE HAS A PROBABLY HOW THAT'S WORKING. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WHEN FOLKS ARE COMING TO SANTA MORE DIFFICULT WHEN IT HAS THE >> I THINK THE CHARTER SCHOOL YOU'VE GOT A PARTICULAR AND CONTINUE ON.

AND IN SOME OF THOSE AND WHEN YOU DO HAVE PARENTS SEEN AS A LEGITIMATE CHOICE. SUPPORTED, THAT IT WAS A VIABLE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO >> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, CAPITAL FUNDS, IN ORDER TO GET THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS, AND THAT MEANS THAT OF -- >> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE $3 GAS. >> $3 GAS, LOOK WHAT -- >> ONE THING I WAS GOING TO STUDENTS, THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED

I MEAN, THAT'S THE POINT. THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT THOSE >> WHAT PEOPLE REALLY FORGET IS STATE BUDGET. SO WE ARE MORE EQUITABLE ALMOST SO WE HAVE THAT COMMITMENT, AND WHEN YOU HAVE 700, 800, 900 EXPENDITURES FOR ONE SESSION -- >> YOU GO BACK A WAYS, THAT'S >> BUT THAT HAPPENS. >> THAT DOES HAPPEN. GROUND AS POSSIBLE IN THE SO PANELISTS, REMEMBER TO GET IT FIRST OFF, THE NEW MEXICO THE MILITARY FOR GANG TATTOOS MARGARET, OUR CONGRESSIONAL

WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN? >> I THINK WE HAVE TO PAY ONE PERSON THAT WAS REALLY THE IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC. THAT'S WHAT GOT THE ATTENTION OF THE LEGISLATORS. BUT LET'S WAIT FOR THE FACTS, >> BILLY, HOW DOES IT STRIKE >> I WAS OUTRAGED. AND BE LOOKED AT FOR SOMETHING THEY'RE FROM NEW MEXICO, BECAUSE THEY'RE HISPANIC, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY EXAMINE THESE NO? THEN YOU'RE OKAY." I WAS OUTRAGED BY IT, AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING.

>> TIME'S UP ON THAT ONE. CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. ON UNIVERSITY. YOU WOULD THINK THIS WOULD HAVE >> VERY GOOD QUESTION. INCREASE. INCREASE TO THE CITY, THEY NEED >> SCOTT, HOW ABOUT YOU? >> GENE, WHY SHOULD WE MAKE WE'RE REALLY PANICKING. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE LEGAL WATER. >> RIGHT. >> I MEAN, I'M JUST WONDERING >> THEY MENTIONED THE WESTLAND THAT, EITHER. >> DOES THIS FEEL LIKE IT WAS A EVERYBODY? >> WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT >> BILLY, HOW ABOUT YOU?

>> THIS IS A BIG DEAL. GOING TO GET WORSE. DEVELOPMENT IT IS, YOU HAVE TO >> LAST WORD ON THAT. THE GALLUP-MCKINLEY COUNTY AND ZUNI SCHOOL DISTRICTS FILED A SCOTT, MR. SCHOOLTEACHER, DO >> FROM WHAT I READ, IT SEEMED THINK NEW MEXICO HAVING SUCH A HELPFUL. HAVING THE FEDERAL FACILITIES >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATIVE YOU KNOW, RICK MIERA IS TALKING >> BUT YOU ALSO HAVE -- IN

GENERAL FUND, SO THE FEAR WAS IF MAINTAIN THE EQUALITY OF THIS IT, BUT THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THE ASSESSING ON NEED WHAT THE >> IT'S A SHAME IT HAD TO COME >> YEAH, THAT'S BEEN IN THE TO HAVE THE SAME POINT OF VIEW >> HAS SANTA FE SEEN THE END OF THE CONTROVERSIAL DISPLAY MADE LOT OF PEOPLE UP THERE, AND SOME LEADERS, TO SUGGEST MAYBE >> I ACTUALLY LIVE A HALF-MILE PUBLIC ART, AND IN NEW MEXICO WE LOVE PUBLIC ART, THERE'S NO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY -- NO ONE IS

FRIENDS ABOUT IT, AND HE TOLD MY AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD STAY. >> MARGARET, HAVE YOU BEEN >> I HAVEN'T, BUT IT SOUNDS A MONUMENT TO REUSING, SOME APPRECIATION FOR ALL OF THE TRASH THAT WE GENERATE. >> I THINK IF THEY HAD BURIED TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE. OF TIME.