PBS NewsHour; June 15, 2020, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PROCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, EQUAL - RIGHTS FOR ALL-- THE SUPREME - COURT RULES EMPLOYERS CAN NO - LONGER DISCRIMINATE ON THE BASIS - OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER - IDENTITY.IN - THEN, ONOUTRAGE-- ANOTHER - OFFICER-INVOLVED KILLING IN THE - QUESTIONS ABOUT PO USE OFMORE - FORCE. - PLUS, INVESTING IN COMMUNITY-- - MINNEAPOLIS BEMES A TESTING - GROUND FOR A NATIONWIDE PUSH TO - REALLOCATE LAW ENFORCEMENT - BUDGETS IN THE WAKE OFEORGE - FLOYD'S DEATH. - AND, CHALLENGE TRIALS-- WHY - THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND - THE WORLD ARE VOLUNTEERING TO BE - DELIBERATELY INFECTED WITH COVID - 19, HOPING TO ACCELERATE THE - DEVELOPMENT OF A VACCINE. - >> THERE IS A REAL BENEFIT TO BE - ABLE TO TAKE ONE STEP THAT'SUL

- USR POTENTIALLY USEFUL AND - I THINK THAT HELPS WITH COPING - WITH THIS REALLY TERRIBLE - DISEASE AND TERRIBLE SITUATION - 'RE IN RIGHT NOW. - >> Woodruff: ALL THAT AND MORE - ON TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR. - >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY: - >> THE WILLIAM AND FLORA HEWLETT - FOUNDATION.

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- TODAY, OUTLAWING JOB - DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OFTI - SEXUAL ORIEN OR - TRANSGENDER IDENTITY. - JOHN YANG BREAKSOWN WHAT THE - JUSTICES SAID AND WHAT IT MEANS. - >> Yang: THE COURT'S DECISION - DECLARING THAT A SIX-DECADE OLD - CIVIRIGHTS LAW PTECTS GAY - AND TRANSGENDERED WORKERS FROMIM - EMPLOYMENT DISATION WAS - STATED CLEARLY AND SIMPLY:" - AN EMPLOYER WHO FIRES AN - INDIVIDUAL FOR BEING HOMOSEXUAL - OR TRANSGENDER FIRES TT PERSON - FOR TRAITS OR ACTIONS IT WOULDNO - HAVE QUESTIONED IN MEMBERS - OF A DIFFERENT SEX.SE - PLAYS A NECESSARY AND - UNDISGUISABLE ROLE IN THE - DECISION, EXACTLY WHAT [THE LAW] - FORBIDS." - JUSTICE NEIL GORSUCH, A MEMBER - OF THE COURT'S CONSERVATIVE - FACTION, WROTE THE OPINION AND - WAS JOINED BY CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN - ROBERTS AND THE FOUR LIBERAL - JUSTICES IN THE 6-TO-3 MAJORITY. - THE RULING IS A MILESTONE FOR - GAY RIGHTS AND COMES AT A TIME - WHEN MINORITIES ACROSS THE - COUNTRY ARE SPEAKING OUT FOR

- JUSTICE. - E WANT? DO - >> JUSTICE! - >> WHEN DO WE WANT IT? - >> NOW! - >> Yang: AS IN THIS JOINT "BLACK - LIVES MATTER" AND L.G.B.T.Q. - RIGHTS MARCH YESTERDAY IN LOS - ANGELES. - BEFORE TODAY'S DECISION, IT WAS - LEGAL IN 28 STATES T - SOMEONE, REFUSE THEM A PROMOTION - OR NOT PROTECT THEM FROM - WORKPLACE SEXUAL HARASSMENT - SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE GAY OR - TRANSGENDER. C - MARCLE IS CHIEF WASHINGTON - CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NATIONAL - LAW JOURNAL. - COULD IT IS FAIR TO CALL IT A - LAN MARK DECISION, ONE IS - BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME - COMING, LONG FOUGHT BY THE LGBTQ - COMMUNITY. - WE DON'T KNOW YET ALL THE - IMICATIONS OF THE DECISION. - AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT - WERE RAISED IN THE OPINION, - JUSTICE GORSUCH SAID WILL BE - SAVED FOR OTHER DAY. - BUT IT CLEARLY IS GOING TO MAKE - EMPLOYERS ACROSSE THITED - STATES THINK ABOUT THEIR - EMPLOYMENTS POLICIES TOWARDS - THEIR WORKERS AS WELL AS JOB - APPLICANTS.

- >> Yg: GORSUCH BRUSHED ASI - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S - ARGUMENT THAT THE CIVIOFRIGHTS - AC964 WAS NOT WRITTEN WITH - GAY AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE IN - MIND. - IN DISSENT, JUSTICE SAMUEL - ALITO, WRITING FOR HIMSELF AND - JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS, WAS - JUST AS BLUNT. - "THERE IS ONLY ONE WORD URR WHAT - THE COT HAS DONE TODAY: - LEGISLATION." - IT WASHE SUPREME COURT'S FIRST - GAY RIGHTS DECISION NOT WRITTEN - BY RETIRED JUSTICEKENTHONY - NNEDY, WHO STEPPED DOWN IN - 2018. - GORSUCH, A TRUMP APPOINTEE, - CLERKED FOR KENNEDY, AS DID THE - THIRD DISSENTING JUSTICE, BRETT - KAVANAUGH, WHOM PRESIDENT UMP - NOMINATED TO REPLACE KENNEDY. - KAVANAUGH WROTE THAT THE COURT - RIGHTS LAW, A POWE" THE CIVIL - ...BELONGS TO CONGRESS AND THE - PRESIDENT IN THE LEGISLATIVE T - PROCESS, NTHIS COURT." G - SUCH HE CAN'T TELEGRAPH - WHERE HE WAS GOING DURING THE

- AND AT THAT PNT HE TALKEDTOBER. - ABOUT THE TEXT OF TITLE 7, THE - WORDS THAT EMPLOYERSHALL N - DISCRIMINATE BECAUSE OF SEX. I - TH PERHAPS HIS MOST IN - DEPTH APPFLICATIONTECT ALISM - AND HOW HE READS - >> Yang: THE JUSTICES RULED IN - THREE CASES, TWO INVOLVING MEN - WHO SUED AFT THEY SAID THEY - RE FIRED FOR BEING GAY. - SKY-DIVING INSTRUCTOR DON ZARDA - WAS FIRED IN 2010 AFTER TELLING - A FEMALE CLIENT WHO WAS ABOUT TO - STRAPPED TO HIM FOR A JUMP, THAT - HE WAS GAY. - AFTER ZARDA DIED IN A 2014 - ACCIDENT, HIS CASE WAS PRESSED - BY HIS PARTNER, WILLIAM MOORE, - AND BY MELISSA ZARDA, HIS - YOUNGER SISTER. - >> IT WAS A DOUBLE STANDARD IF - HE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, - CASUALLY MENTION HISWHILE - HE WAS ON A SKYDIVE. - NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. - AND HE FELT LIKE HE MENTIONEDAN - HIS HUSBANHE GOT FIRED FOR - IT. - NOT ONLY WAS IT REALLY PAINFUL - FOR HIM, BUT THAT HE NEVER - NTED ANYBODY ELSE TO GO - THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THIS. - >> Yang:HE OTHER CASE INVOLVED

- GERALD BOSTOCK, WHO WAS FIRED - FROM A COUNTY JOB IN GEORGIA - AFTER HE JOID A GAY SOFTBALL - TEAM. - I DID NOTHING WRONG. - AND NOW I HVE SOME VALIDATIO - IN THAT, BY THE OPINION THAT WAS - GIVEN TODAY.RA - >> THEGENDER RIGHTS CASE - > Yang: THE TRANSGENDER RIGHTS - CASE WAS BROUGHT BY AIMEE - STEPHENS, WHO WAS DISMIGSED FROM - A MI FUNERAL HOME AFTER - SHE TOLD HER BOSS SHE WOULD - BEGIN LIVING AS A WOMAN. - THE COMPANY SAID SHE FAILED TO - FOLLOW THE DRESS CODE. - STEPHENS DIED KIDNEY FAILURE - LAST MONTH AFTER SEEING HER CASE - ARGUED BEFORE THE JUSTICES IN - OCTOBER. - TODAY HER WIFE, DONNA, ISSUED A - TWO-WORD STATEMENT: "WE WON." - TRANSGENDER RIGHTS WILL LIKELY - REMAIN AN ISSUE IN FERAL - COURTS FOR A LITTLE WHILE. - ADMINISTRATION ELIMINATED - PROTECTION FOR TRANSGENDERPA - ENTS AGAINST DISCRIMINATION - BY DOCTORS, HOSPITALS AND - INSURANCE COMPANIES UNDER TE - AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. - THE LAWSUITS AGAINST THAT HAVEAD - ALBEEN ANNOUNCED.

- JUDY? - >> Woodruff: A LOT TO POUR - THROUGH, TO DIG THROUGH TODAY. - HN, SO AS THE COURT COMES - TOWARD, CLOSER TO THE END OF - THIS TER THEY ARE ALREADY - BEGINNING TO SET THE AGENDA FOR - NEXT TERM. - AND WHAT WERE YOU ABLE TO LEARN - ABOUT THAT TODAY? - >> WELL, WE LERNED THREE - HOT-BUTTON ISSUESTHAT THEY WILL - NOT BE TAKING UP. - WHICH ONLY MEANS THAT THERE WERE - FOUR JUSTICES-- THERE WERE NOT - AT LEAST FOUR JUSTICES WILLING - TO TAKE UP THOSE CASES, THOSE - ONE IS GUN LAWS. - THERE WERE ABOUT A DOZEN GUN - LAWS BEING CHALLENGED AND GUN - RIGHTS ADVOCATEWERE HOPING - THIS CONSERVATIVE COURT WOULD - T KE THEM UP. - THE COURURNED THEM ALL DOWN. - TTTHAT DRAW A BIT OF A - REBUKE FROM JUSTICE CLARENCE - THOMAS WRITING FOR HIMSELF AND - JUSTICE KAVANAUGH. - HE SAIID SURELY THS COURT WOULD - SPEECH OR HE POINTEDLY ADDED, - ABORTION, ACCESS TO AN ABORTION. - BUT TODAY FACED WITH THE - PETITION CHAENGING A

- RESTRICTION ON CITIZENS' SECOND - AMENDMENT RIGHTS,HE WROTE, THE - COURT SIMPLY LOOKED THE OTHER - WAY. - ANOTHER ISSUE THAT IS GETTING A - LOT OF ATTENTION NOW BECAUSE OF - THE POLICE SHOOTINGS AND CASES - OF EXCESSIVE FORCE BY POLICE IS - THE DOCTRINE OF QUALIFIED - S MUNITY. - THISDECADES OLD IDEA THAT - THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID THAT - POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER - GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CANNOT BE - SUED IN CIVIL COURT UNLESS THEY - CLEARLY VIOLATE THE LAW OR - VIOLATE SOME CLEAR - CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD. - BY COINCIDENCE, BECAUSE THESE - CASES WERE SENT TO THE COURT - BEFORE, THE WERE ABOUT 8 CASES - THAT THE COURT WAS BEING ASKED - TO RECONSIDER THIS DOCTRINE, - THEY TURNED THEM ALL DOWN. - AND FIALLY, STATE SANCTUARY - LAWS. - THE COURTS TODAY REECTED A BID - FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TA - REVI CALIFORNIA SANCTUARY - STATE LAW THAT FORDS STATE LAW - ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS FROM - PROVIDING CERTAIN INFORMATION TO

- FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OICIALS. - THEY SAID THEY ARE NOT GOING TO - REVIEW THAT SO THAT LAW STANDS. - JUDY, THE JUSTICES USUALLY LIKE - TO WRP UP THEIR BUSINESS BY THE - END OF JUNE.BU - BECAUSE OF TIME THEY LOST - BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE - EARLY DAYS OF THE PANMIC, THEY - SAY THEY MAY BE WORKING INTO - JULY THIS YEAR. - >> Woodruff: WE WILL BE - LOOKING OUT FOR THAT, JOHN YANG, - REPORTING NOT JUST ON WHAT THE - JUSTICES RULED ON BUT WHAT THEY - HAVE KLEINED TO RULE ON. - A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, THANK YOU, - JOHN. - TO LOOK CLOSER AT WHAT THISST - IC DECISION MEANS FOR - L.G.B.T.Q. RIGHTS, I'M JOINED BY - ALPHONSO DAVID, HE IS THE - PRESIDENT OF THE HUMAN RIGHTSLA - CAMPAIGN, THEST CIVIL - RIGHTS ORGANIZATION DEVOTED TO - L.G.B.T. EQUALITY. - AND CHASE STRANGIO, THE DEPUTY - DIRECTOR FOR TRANS JUSTICE WITH - THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES - UNION'S L.G.B.T. AND H.I.V. - PROJECT. - HE WAS ONE OF THE LAWYERS - WORKING ON THE CASE DECIDED - TODAY. - WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU.

- AND LET ME START WITH YOU, - ALPHONSO DAVID, JUST PUT THIS IN - A LARGER CON TECH. - WHAT DOES TODAY'S RULING MEAN? - >> TODAY'S RULING MEANS THA - LGBTQ PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY - CAN NOW GO TO BED KNOWING THAT - THE FEERAL COURTS ARE - PROTECTING THEM FROM - DISCRIMINATIONS AT WORK. - WE HAVE HAD CASE DECISIONS IN - THE PAST 20 YRS THAT SAD THAT - LGBTQ PEOPLE ARE PROTECTED UNDER - FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS W. - THAT PRINCIPLE WAS CHALLENGED IN - THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. - AND TODAY HAVE A RULING THAT - SAYS LGBTQ PEOPLE AREOTECTED - UNDER FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS, - EMDOYMENT DISCRIMINATION - THAT IS THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY. - >> Woodruff: CHASEGITR - WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU, HOW DO YOU - AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS FOUGHT FOR - THE KINDS OF RIGHTS THAT WERE - DEBATED BEFORE THE COURT AND ARE - NOW HANDED DOWN IN THIS OPINION, - WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU?

- >> YOU KNOW, TH AS WAS - INCREDIBLE DAY COMING ON THE - HEELS OF SOIN MANCREDIBLE AND - HEARTBREAKING DAYS OF ORGANIZING - AND REISTANCE. - AND THE WORK HAS BEEN FOUGHT FOR - DECADES. - T WHAT IS AN INCREDIBLY BASIC - PROPOSITION THAT YOU SHOULDN'T - BE FIRED FROM WORK JUST BECAUSE - OF WHO YOU ARE.A - IT WA CONSERVATIVE LEGAL - PRINCIPLE. - IT WA A CONSERVATIVE CASE OF - STATUTORY INTERPRETAEDON AND - INLE TO HAVE A 6-3 RULING - FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME - COURT THAT UNDERMINES EFFOR TO - SABOTAGE PROTECTIONS FOR LGBTQT - THAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM THGO - RNMENT SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP - WAS ELECTED. - >> Woodruff: SO DOES THIS MEAN - ALL THE LEGAL BARRIERS COME - TUMBLING DOWN? - WHAT DOES IT MEAN FROM A - PRACTICAL STANDPOINT? - >> FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT - THIS DECISION MEANS THAT IF YOU - FACE DISCRIMINATION AT WORK, YOU - HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEEK REDRESS - IN COURT UNDER FEDERAL CIV - RIGHTS LAWS.

- BUT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE - COMPREHENSIVE PROTECTIONS FOR - LGBTQ PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHAT WE - ARE FIGHTING CURRENTLY IN - CONGRESS. - IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION - CALLED THE EQUALITY ACT. - CEAND THAT PIEF LEGISLATION - WOULD PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE - LEGAL PROTECTIONS FORB LGTQ - PEOPLE IN HOUSING, IN PUBLIC - ACCOMMODATIONS, CREDIT, - EDUCATIOIS RETAIL - ESTAENTS, TRANSPORTATION - AND THE LIKE. - UNDER CURRENT LAW THERE ARE NO - FEDERAL PRTECTIONS FOR LGBTQ - PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC - ACCOMMODATIONS, NO PROTECTNS - IN CREDIT. - AND SO WE'RE LACKING TO MAKE - SURE THAT THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE - ENSHRINED IN LAW AND THAT WILL - BE THE EQUALITY ACT. - IFS PAS PASSED THE HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES, IT IS CURRENTLY - STALLED INHE U.S. SENATE. - >> Woodruff: AND CHASE - STRANGIO, IN TERMS OF RIGHTS FOR - TRANSINDIVIDUALS AN AREA THAT - YOU HAVE A SPECITEREST IN, - IS THIS GOING TO MAKE A - DIFFERENCE AT A PRACTICAL LEVEL. - >> YES, I WOULD THINK TWO

- FIRST IT WILL ABSOLUTELY MAKE A - DIFFERENCE. - THIS AS ALPHONSO SAID IS GOING - TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE - EMPLOYMENT PROTECTIONS FORR - TRANSGENEOPLE ACROSS THE - COUNTRY AND CLARIFY THAT THE - FEDERAL PROHIBITI ONX - DISCRIMINATION INCLUDES - TRANSGENDER PEOPLE. - THAT WILL LIKELY LTEND TO - OF THE FEDERAL STATUTES THAT - PROHIBIT SEX DISCRIMINION IT - ALSO UNDERMINES THE EFFORTS BY - THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO - TRANS INDIVIDUALS AND ALL LGBTQ - PEOPLE IN HEALTH CARE ICH IS - ABSOLUTELY INTEGRAL TO OUR - SURVIVAL. - AND AT THE SAME TIME A FORL - LEGAL RULING ISN'T THE END OF - THE STORY. - WE HAVE A TON OF WORK TO DO T - PROTECT OUR BLACK TRANS SBLINGS - TO THE VIOLENCE THEY ARE - EXPERIENCING AT THE HANDS OF THE - STATE, AT THE HANDS OF - INDIVIDUALS AND WE HAVE TO KEEP - ORGANIZING. - ,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN - BROOKLYN ON SUNDAY, YESTERDAY, - FOR TRANS LIVES. - AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT - ENSURES THAT THE MATERIAL IMPACT - OF TODAY'S DECISION IS FEL W - TH DON'T LOSE MOMENTUM BUT

- ABSOLUTELY TODAY IS A HUGE - MOMENT FOR TRANS PEOPLE, A HUGE - MOMENT FOR THE WHOLE LGBTQ AND - THE WHOLE CIVIL RIGHTS - COMMUNITY. - >> Woodruff: ALPHONSO DAVID, I - WANT YOU TO PICK UP ON THAT, IT - WAS JUST ON FRIDAY THAT THE - TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MOVED TO - REMOVE PROTECTIONS FOR TRANS - INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AFFORDABLE - IS THIS IN ANYWAY GOING TO - ANGE THE ARGUMENT WITH REGARD - TO THAT? - IS THAT STILL STANDING? - >> THAT IS STILL STANDING, - UNFORTUNATELY. - AS YOU SAID, THE TRUMP - ADMINISTRATION FINALIZED - REGULATIONS ON FRIDAY THAT WOULD - EFFECTIVELY - DISCRIMINATION-- DISCRIMINATE - COMMUNITY ANGENDERMEMBERS OF OUR - NONCONFORMING MEMBERS OF OUR - COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WOMEN. - WE BELIEVE THE TRU - ADMINISTRATION HAS EXCEEDED ITS - AUTHORITY. - THEY DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITYE - TO REWRITE TAW AND THAT IS - EFFECTIVELY WHAT THEY ARE TRYING - TO DO. - WE BELIEVE THIS DECISION SHOULD - HAVE AN IMPACON EXECUTIVE - ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

- BUT IF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATIO - CONTINUES TO ADVANCE THESE - REGULATIONS AND THEY REFUSE TO - SCIND THE REGULATIONS, WE WILL - BE ADVANCING LEGAL ACTION. - WE FID ANNOUNCE RIDAY THAT - WE ARE COMMENCING LEGAL ACTION - AGAINST THE TRUMPRA - ADMINION. - I'M HOPEFUL THAT TODAY'S - DECISION ALLOWS THEM TO REFLECT - AND RESCIND THOSE REGULATIONS, - BUT IF THEY REFUSE TO WE WILL BE - SUING THEM. - >> Woodruff: AND LET'S - CONTINUE WITH THAT, CHASE - STRANGIO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUSTM - THE THAT TOOK PLACE ON - FRIDAY, IT WAS THE STEPS BY THE - TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO SAY - TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS CAN'T - LEGALLY SERVE IN THE ARMED - FORCES AND A NUMBER OTHER - EPS THEY'VE TAKEN. - SO WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE TASK - THAT LIES AHEAD OF YOU AND - OTHERS WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR - TRANSGENDER RIGHTS WITHIN THE - TRUMEADMINISTRATION IS NOT T - FINAL WORD ON DISCRIMINATION - AGAINST OF SEX. - THE SUPREME COURT IS. - AND TODAY THE SUPREME COURT MAD - UNEQUIVOCAEAR THAT - DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE OF AN

- INDIVIDUAL'S SEX INCLUDES - DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LGBTQ - PEOPLE. - SO I AGREE. - IS VOID.THAT THE HHS REG - I THINK THAT EFFORTS TO - DISCRIMINATE AGAINST TRANSGENDER - STUDENTS ARE NO LONGER - CONSISTENT WITH THE TE AS - HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR BY THE - SUPREME COURT BUT ALL OF THESE - ISSUES WILBE PERCOLATING IN - OUR ALREADY BEING LITIGATED IN - THE LOWER COURTS. - IN TERMS OF THE EXTENT OF - PROTECTIONS AND THE CONTEXT OF - EDUCATION, IN THE CONTEXT OF - HOUSINLTAND SH, AS WELL AS - UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN - THE CONTEXT OF HEALTH CARE. - WHEN IT COMES TO THE BAN - ON-- OPEN MILITARY SERVICE BY - TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, THIS WILL - APPLY TO CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS, - TITLE 7 DOES APPLY. - TITLE 7 DOES NOT APPLY TO-- SO - THE FIGHT OVR TRANSGENDER - MILITARY BAN CONTINUES. - IT CONTINUES IN THE LOWER - COURTSUNFORTUNATELY THE - SUPREME COURT ALLOWED THE BAN TO - INTO EFFECT. - BUT ULTIMATELY A NEW PRESIDENT - COULD TAKE AWAY THAT BAN ALMOST - IMMEDIATELY. - SO THERE ARE SO MANY FIGHTS - AHEAD AND SOME OF THEM WILL BE - LITIGATED IN THE LOWER COURTS.

- SOX OF CAN BE FI BY - EXECUTIVE ACTION BUT ULTIMATELY - WE'RE GOING TO KEEP FIGHTING IN - EVERY OSSIBLE WAY TO ENSURE - THAT OUR FULL LGBT COMMUNITYHE - PARTICULARLYLACK AND BROWN - PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN LEADING THE - THE DISCRIMINATION ARE LEADING - THE FIGHT AND CENTER. - Woodruff: ALPHONSO DAVID - WITH THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGNT - AND DAVIDANGIO WITH THE - ACLU, WE THANK YOU BOTH WITHIN - THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: A NEW KILLING BY - POLICE, NEW OUTCRIES ACROSS THE - COUNTRY. - THE CITY OF ATLANTA IS THE - NEWEST FOCUS TONIGHT OF THE - BURGEONING CAMPAIGN FOR CIAL - JUSTICE. - WILLIAM BRANGHAM BEGINS OUR - >> Brangham: HUNDR - PROTESTERS TURNED OUT IN - DOWNTOWN ATLANTA THIS MORNING,GA - MARCHINGST POLICE - BRUTALITY AND DEMANDING CHANGE. - THE FLASHPOINT WAS THE FATALOO - NG THREE DAYS AGO OF - RAYSHARD BROOKS, A 27-YEAR-OLDN,

- BLACK Y A WHITE POLICE - OFFICER. - CHASTITY EVANS IS BROOKS' NIECE. - >> NOT ONLY ARE WE HURT, WE ARE - ANGRY.TO - WHEN DOES THIS! - WE ARE NOT ONLY PLEADING FOR - JUSTICE, WE ARE PLEADING FOR - CHANGE. - >> Bngham: ON FRIDAY NIGHT, - POLICE ANSWERED CALL THAT - BROOKS WAS ASLEEP IN HIS CAR IN - A WENDY'S DRIVE-THROUGH LANE. - IT BEGAN AS A CALM ENCOUNTER,CA - BUT TED WHEN POLICE TRIED - TO ARREST BROOKS FOR DRUNK - DRIVING.OO - STRUGGLED AND FOUGHT WITH - THE OFFICERS, THEN RAN AWAY WITH - WHAT APPEARED TO BE E OF THE - OFFICER'S TASER GUNS. - WHILE FLEEING, ONE OF THE - OFFICERS SHOT HIM TWICE IN THE - BACK. - ATLANTA'S POLICE CHIEF, ERIKA - SHIELDS, RESIGNED THE DAY AFTER - THE SHOOTING. - THE OFFICER WHO SHOT BROOKS, - GARRETT ROLFE, HAS BEEN FIRED... - AND THE OTHER OFFICER AT THE - SCENE, DEVIN BROSNAN, HAS BEEN - PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE DUTY - PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE - INVESTIGATION. - ATLANTA'S D.A. SAID HE'LL DECIDE - THIS WEEK WHETHER TO FILE ANY

- CRIMIN CHARGES WILL BE FILED. - TODAY ATLANTA MAYOR KEISHA LANCE - BOTTOMS SAID IT'S "ABUNDANTLY - CLEAR" THERE IA NEED TO REVIEW - THE RULES D THE TRAINING FOR - HOW POLICE USE DEADLY FORCE. - WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER DAY, - ANOTHER MINE, ANOTHER HOUR TO - WAIT. - IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT OUR POLICE - OFFICERS ARE TO BE GUARDIANS AND - NOT WARRIORS WITHIN OUR - >> Brangham: BROOKS' KILLING - FUELED NEW FURY THROUGHOUT THE - PEOPLE PROTESTING IN ATLANTA AND - ELSEWHERE. - CHANGE.LE ARE DONE WAITING FOR A - AND EVERYBODY IS STANDING - TOGETHER, EVERYBODY IS WALKING, - EVERYBODY IS MAKING NOISE. - WE JUST WANT TO BE HEARD! - >> Brangham: THE WENDY'S, WHERE - RAYSHARD BROOKS WAS KILLED, WAS - TORCHED ON FRIDAY NIGHT. - BU HIS WIDOW, TAMIKA MILLER, - APPEALED TODAY FOR AN END TO ANY - VIOLENCE. - >> I JUST ASK THAT IF YOU COULD - JUST KEEP IT AS A PEACEFUL - PROTEST, THAT WOULD BE - WONDERFUL, BECAUSE WE WANT TO - KEEP HIS NAME POSITIVE AND

- GREA - >> Brangham: MEANWHILE IN - MINNEAPOLIS, THE PRESSURE IS - STILL BUILDING TO DISMANTLE THE - CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE - WAKE OF GEORGE FLOYD'S KILLING - EREE WEEKS AGO, WHEN A WH - OFFICER PRESSED A KNEE TO - FLOYD'S NECK FOR ALMOST NINE - MINUTES. - YESTERDAY, DEMOCRATIC OTA - CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN OMAR - INSISTED THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE - DEPARTMENT NEEDS A COMPLETE - OVERHAUL. - >> YOU CAN'T REALLY REFORM A - DEPARTMENT THAT IS ROTTEN TO THE - ROOT. - WHAT YOU CAN DO IS REBUILD. - >> Brangham: ELSEWHERE: - PROTESTERS IN SEATTLE ARE STILLM - OCCUPYING L PART OF THE - CITY'S CAPITOL HILL - NEIGHBORHOOD, AFTER POLICE - ABANDONED THEIR PRECINCT THERE A - WEEK AGO IN AN EFFORT TO EASE - TENSIONSEF - STNTS ARE BOARDED UP AND - COVERED IN GRAFFITI, ANDES - BARRICADARK THE BORDERS OF - THE ROUGHLY SIX-BLOCK SO-CALLE"" - CAPITOL HILL AUTONOMOUS ZONE". - OFFICIALS NEED RETAKE THE AREA - HE WILL DEPLOY THE NATIONAL

- GUARD TO DO DO, AND IN SOUTHERN - AND,N SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: - THE FAMILIES OF TWO YOUNG BLACK - MEN ARE DEMANDING INVESTIGATIONS - AFTER THE TWWERE FOUND HANGING - FROM TREES, 50 MILES APART, IN - RECENT DAYS. - BOTH THEIR DEATHS WERE INITIALLU - LED SUICIDES, BUT RELATIVES - SAY THEY FEAR THE MEN WERE - LYNCHED. - ALEX VILLANUEVA IS THE LOS - ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF. - >> WE'LL ANSWER ALL THE - QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET FULL - CLOSURE TO WHAT HAPPENED HERE. - I REACHED OUT TO ATTORNEY - GENERAL JAVIER BECERRA AND THEY - ARE NOW GOING TO PROVIDE AVI - MONITOR AND ALL OF OUR - INVESTIGATION TO MAKE SURE WE - DIDN'T LEAVE ANY RK UNTURNED. - >> Brangham: ALL THIS S AS - THE UNITED NATIONS' HUMAN RIGHTS - COUNCIL IN GENEVA HAS ANNOUNCED - PLANS TOEBATE SYSTEMIC RACISM - AND POLICE BRUTALITY IN THE U.S. - AND ELSEWHERE ON WEDNESDAY. - THOSE CONCERNS TRIGGERED - SOLIDARITY PROTESTS AROUND THE - WORLD OVER THE WEEKEND. - FROM NEW ZEALAND... - >> THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FORS

- YEARD TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO - SPEAK UP ABOUT IT AND FEEL LIKE - I'M DOING SOMETHING TO HELP YOU - KNOW? - IT MEANS A LOT. - >> Brangham: TO BRAZIL, AND IN - FRANCE. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - WILLIAM BRANGHAM. - >> Woodruff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER - NEWS, THE U.S. FOOD AND DRUG - ADNISTRATION WITHDREW - EMERGENCY APPROVAL FOR HOSPITALS - TO USE HROXYCHLOROQUINE TO - TREAT COVID-19. - THE F.D.A. SAITHE MALARIA DRUG - IS UNLIKELY TO BE EFFECTIVE - AGAINST THE CORONAVIS. - PRESIDENT TRUMP S TOUTED THE - DRUG, AND DEFENDED IT AGAIN - TODAY. - >> I CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, I - TOOK IT FOR TWO WEEKS AND HERE - WE ARE.LT - I TOOK IT AND OOD ABOUT - TAKING IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT - HAD AN IMPACT, BUT IT CERTAINLY - DN'T HURT ME. - >> Woodruff: MEANWHILE, - INFECTIONS CONTINUE TO INCREASE - ACROSS MUCH OF THE UNITED - STATES. - ARIZONA, TEXAS, AND FLORIDA HAVE

- REPORTED SURGING CASE NUMBERS, - AND ALABAMA'S WEEKLY CASE - AVERAGE IS UP 92%. - AT LEAST 18 MORE STATES AND - PUERTO RICO ALSO REPORT RISING - INFECTIONS. - ALSO TODAY, CHINESE OFFICIALS - SHUT DOWN BEIJING'S LARGEST - OUTDOOR FOOD MARKET AND ORDERED - NEW TESTING AFTER AN OUTBREAK OF - DOZENS OF CASES. - IN RUSSIA, A MOSCOW COURT - SENTENCED AMERICAN PAUL WHELAN - TODAY TO 16 YEARS IN PRISON ON - SPYING CHARGES. - THE FORMER U.S. MARINE WAS - ARRESTED IN DECEMBER 2018, AND - HAS DENIED THE CHARGES. - U.S. OFFICIALS CALLED IT A - "MOCKERY OF JUSTICE." - WE'LL EX - THE PROGRAM. LATER IN - HETHE TOP TWO OFFICIALS AT - U.S. GOVERNMENT-FUNDED "VOICE OF - AMERICA" HAVE RESIGNED AMID - .ASHES WITH PRESIDENT TRU - AMANDA BENNETT ANDCTER DEPUTY - DI STEPPED DOWN TODAY. - THAT CAME AFTER THE PRESIDENT - CHARGED V.O.A.'S CORON - COVERAGE WAS TOO EASY ON CHINA.

- HE ALSO TAPPED CONSERVATIVE - FILMMAKER MICHAEL PACK T - OVERSEE V.O.A.'S PARENT - ORGANIZATION.ON - ALL STREET TODAY, STOCKS - SLUMPED, THEN RALLIED AFTER THEV - FEDERAL RESAID IT WILL BUY - MORE CORPORATE BONDS.W - THE NES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE - GAINED 157 POINTS TO CLOSE AT - 25,763. - IT HAD BEEN DOWN 760 AT ONE - POINT. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 137 POINTS, AND, - THE S&P 500 ADDED 25. - AND, THE 93rd "OSCARS" AWARDS - WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 25, 2021, - TWO MONTHS LATER THAN ORIGINALLY - PLANNED. - IT'S POSTPONED AFTER THE - CORONAVIRUS SHUTDOWN PRODUCTION, - MID-MARCH.EATER FILMS IN - THE ACADEMY HAS ALSO EXTENDED - THE DEADLINE FOR MOVIES TO BE - ELIGIBLE FOR THE 2021 AWARDS TO - FEBRUARY 28, 2021. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: - MINNEAPOLIS BECOMES A TESTING - GROUND FOR A NATIONWIDE PUSH TO - REALLOCATE POLICE FUNDING.

- WHY THOUSANDS ARE VOLUNTEERING - TO BE INFECTED WITH COVID 19 IN - THE SEARCH FOR A VAC - TWO AMERICANS ARE IMPRISONED - OVERSEAS BY AUTOCRATIC - GOVERNMENTS. - ANMUCH MORE. - >> Woodruff: NOW TO MINNEAPOLIS, - WHERE GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED BY - POLICE. - SINCE HIS DEATH, A MOVEMENT TO - "DISMANTLE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT - AS WE KNOW IT"AS GROWN - STRONGER. - AND IT HAS THE SUPPORT OF A - MAJORITY OF ERTY COUNCIL - ME - SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FRED DE - SAM LAZARO TAKES A LOOAT WHAT - THIS MIGHT MEAN. - >> Reporter: AS FIRE AND RAGE - OVERWHELMED LONG STRETCHES OF - THE LAKE STREET BUSINESSAT - DISTRICTLAST MONTH,

- MINNEAPOLIS TY COUNCILOR - ALONDRA CANO SAYS RESIDENTS OF - HER WARD TOOK MATTERS INTO THEIR - OWN HANDS, TRYG TO SALVAGE - SHE LIVE STREAMED EFFORT - ON FACEBOOK. - >> WE STARTED WITH, YOU KNOW, - SMALL, SMALL BUCKETS OF WATER - AND THROWING THEM AT THE FIRE, - AND THEN FINALLY THE NEIGHBORS - FROM THE OTHER BLOCK HAD ACCESS - TO AN OLD FIRE HOSE AND WERE - ABLE TO OPEN THE FIRE HYDRANT - THERE. - >> Reporter: WHEN THEY FINALLY - NTHEARD FROM LAW ENFORCEMECANO - SAYS, IT WAS WITH FLASHBANGS AND - TEAR GAS, IMPOSING THE STRICT NO - EXCEPTIONS CURFEW. - SHE SAYS SUCH EXPERIENCES HAVE - GIVEN SWIFT RISE TO A MOVEMENT - AND THE SLOGAN "DEFUND THE - POLICE," THE SENTIMENT IS - PLASTERED ACROSS THE CITY AND A - VETO PROOF MAJORITY OF THE CITY - COUNCIL COMMITTED ITSELF TO" - ENDING THE MINNEAPIS POLICE - DEPARTMENT."

- >> HEEVERYBODY, WE NEED TO - ORGANIZE OUR OWN AND NO ONE ELSE - IS COMING TO OUR AID. - >> Reporter: USING SOCIAL MEDIA, - COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS LIKE SAM - GOULD, BROUGHT HUGE CROWDS TO - THE POWDERHORN NEIGHBORHOOD PARK - THE FIRST MORNING AFTER PROTESTS - BEGAN. - >> IT'S NOW UP TO THE TO - INFORM THEMSELVES AND SET THE - AGENDA OWHAT A POLICE FREE - FUTURE IS. - >> Reporter: SCHOOL TEACHER - JESSICA MUELLER: I - ANYTHING IS GOING TO - HAPPEN TO KEEP US SAFE, AND TO - KEEP US AS A SOLID COMMUNITY,OI - IT'S TO HAVE TO COME UP - FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. - SO THE LAST PEOPLE THAT WE FEEL - SAFE WITH RIGHT NOW ARE THE MPD, - WHO WE PAY. - >> I LIKE TO MORE SP - THINK ABOUT IT AS REIMAGINING - PUBLIC SAFETY. - GH Reporter: PHILIPPE CUNN - SERVES THE CITY'S FOURTH WARD. - >> AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE - WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN - ANYONE CALLS 911, THAT THEY HAVE - THEIR EMERGENCY CR, AND THATE TO - THEY ARE BEING KEPT SAFE H - >> Reporter:SAYS THAT - RESPONSE COULD BE FROM A SOCIAL - WORKER, MENTAL HEALTH - PSPROFESSIONAL OR ARMED COHEN - THAT IS DEEMED APPROPRIATE; A

- SHAYTING OR ARMED ROBBERY, S - THE COUNCIL PLANS TO INITIATE A - LONG PROCESS, INCLUDING LIKELY A - REFERENDUM, TO CHANGE THE CITY'S - CHARTER. - AT THE SAME TIME, AND ALLOW IT - TO SHIFTOME OF THE $193 - MILLION ANNUAL POLICE DEPARTMENT - BUDGET TO COMMUNITY-BASED - PROGRAMS. - COUNCILLORS SAY THEY WANT TO - ADDRESS UNDERLYING PROBLEMS LIKE - HOMELESSNESS-AND OTHER SYMPTOMS - OF POVERTY THAT DRIVE CRIME AND - VIOLENCE. - CRITICS OF THE COUNCIL'S MOVE - SAY THEY ARE ALARMED AT THE LAAI - OF D OR TIME FRAME. - STEVE CRAMER, WITH A DOWNTOWN - BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, SAYS IT - SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE - ECONOMICALLY VITAL COMPANIES AND - SPORT VENUES WHO WANT TO - REASSURE CUSTOMERS, EMPLOYEES - AND FANS THAT THE DOWNTOWN IS - SAFE. - >> THERE'S NO PLAN. - THERE'S NO PLAN TO MAKE A PLAN. - YET THERE'S THIS VERY - OVOCATIVE HEADLINE OUT THERE, - INT THAT'STALKING - CREATED A HUGE VACUUM THAT - PEOPLE ARE FILLING WITH THEIR - EITHER THEIR BEST ASPIRATIS OR

- THEIR WORST FEARS. - >> Reporter: OTHERS WORRY ABOUT - MORALE IN THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE - DEPARTMENT, TROUBLED FOR YEARS - BY OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTINGSGA - AND ALLEONS OF MISCONDUCT. - 13 OFFICERS HAVE EITHER QUIT OR - ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RESIGNING - SINCE GEORGE FLOYD'S KILLING. - ANOTHER GROUP PUBLISHED ITS OWN - OPEN LETTER, CONDEMNING THE - ACTIONS OF THEIR FORMER - COLLEAGUE, CHAUVIN. - >> 99% OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS - GOO WORK EVERY DAY, WITH T - RIGHT ATTITUDE, AND THE RIGHT - MINDSET. - >> Reporter:ICH STANEK IS A - FORMER MINNEAPOLIS COP, - REPUBLICAN STATE LEGISLATOR AND - FORMER SHERIFF OF HENNEPIN - COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDESHE CITY. - >> THEY'VE BEEN ATTACKED FROM - EVERY ANGLE BY THE ELECTED - OFFICIALS, THE RESIDENTS - THEMSELVES, OTHERS ACROSS THE - COUNTRY WHOM THEY'VE NEVER MET. - IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO - OVERCOME, ER, REBUILD. - Reporter: HOWEVER, POLI - OFFICERS ENJOY SIGNIFICANT - PROTECTION FROM LAWS THAT ALW - WIDE LATITUDE IN THE USE OF - FORCE, AND POWERFUL UNIONS, - WHICH HAVE LOBBIED SUCCESSFULLY

- FOR STATE LAWS AGAINST RESIDENCY - QUIREMENTS. - 93% OF MINNEAPOLIS OFFICERS LIVS - E THE CITY. - AND ONLY A TINY FRACTION OF THE - CITY'S POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE - BROUGHT UP ON MISCONDUCT CHARGES - FACE ANY DISCIPLINE AND THEIR - DISCIPLINARY RECORDS ARE KEPT - FROM PUBLIC VIEW. - >> IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO - HOLD OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE, YOU - KNOW, FOR THE CHIEF TO FIRE - OFFICERS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE OROB - SHE FINDS MATIC BECAUSE OF - THEIR BEHAVIOR. - >> Reporter: UNIVERSITY OF - PAGE SAYS THAT BEHAVIOR ALSO - REFLECTS WHAT HE CALLS ANAR - ENTRENCHEDOR CULTURE IN - AMERICAN POLICING. - BUT PAGE SAYS THE GEORGE FLOYD - CASE-VIVIDLY ON VIDEO, HAS MOVED - WHITE AMERICAN ATTITUDES LIKE - NONE BEFORE IT. - A LOT OF RAGE I THINK WHITEAD - PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF AREO - BEING FORCEDE THE THINGS - THAT PEOPLE IN CERTAIN - >> Reporter: THAT T BODEOWN. - WELL FOR REFORM IN PUBLIC SAFETY

- APPROACHES, HE SAYS. - STILL, THE PROCESS WILL TAKE - TIME AND NOT BEASY, EVEN AMONG - THE POWDERHORN NEIGHBORS LOOKING - TO RELY MORE ON EACH OTHER AND91 - LESS O - >> MOST OF THE PEOPLE, THAT 1000 - THAT CAME, WERE WHITE. - AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT A - WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD.>> - eporter: HUDA, WHO WANTED - ONLY HER FIRST NAME USED, SAID - IT IS RACIALLY DIVERSE AND - DIVIDED BY CLASS-AND DIFFERENT - PRIORITIES - >> TO BE HONEST, THE VERY FIRST - THINGS THAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING - ABOUT, WERE PROPERTY, AND I WAS - LIKE, GREAT, MY APARTMENT MIGHT - BURN DOWN. - BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED FOR MY - OWN SAFETY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF - PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME. - AND I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE ONE - OF YOU MENTION THAT. - >> Reporter: THESE NEIGHBORS - AGREE THAT ROOTING OUT INGRAINED - BIASES WILL BE A CHALLENGE. - SO TOO MIGHT BE SUSTAINING THE - ENTIRE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST IN - POLICE REFORM, AMID HISTORIC - EVENTS, LIKE A PANDEMIC AND A

- FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, THIS IS - FRED DE SAM LAZARO, IN - MINNEAPOLIS. - PARTNERSHIP FOR THE UNDEOJOLD - STORIES T AT THE - UNIVERSITY OF ST. THOMAS IN - MINNESOTA. - TIESIDENT TRUMP IS EXPECTED TO - SIGN AN EXE ORDER TOMORROW - ON POLICING THAT WILL FOCUS ON - SUES OF TRAINING AND - INFORMATION SHARING. - BUT THE ADMINISTRATION OFFIAL - SAID IT IS NOT EXPECTED - ADDRESS SYSTEMIC RACISM IN LAW - ENFORCEMENT. - >> Woodruff: AS THE WORLD - ANXIOUSLY AWAITS THE DEVELOPMENT - OF A COVID-19 VACCINE, NEW AND - CONTROVERSIAL MEASURES ARE BEING - CONSIDERED FOR THE FIRST TIME. - AMNA NAWAZ REPORTS ON A GROWING - GROUP OFOUNG VOLUNTEERS EAGER - MIGHT HELP THE WORLD MOVEHAT

- FORWARD, DESPITE THE PERSONAL - RISKS. N - az: SEAN DOYLE IS A 31 - YEAR-OLD MEDICAL STUDENT AT - EMORY UNIVERSITY. - HE'S ALSO ONE OF THE FIRST - AMERICANS TO TEST A POTENTIAL - VACCINE FOR COVID-19. - >> IF MY PARTICIPATION IN THIS - VACCINE TRIAL CAN HELP IN ANY - WAY AND EVENTUALLY ENSURE THAT - IT'S NOT INFECTING PEOPLE IN THE - U.S. ANYMORE AND OTHER PLACES - THAN IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING - TO PARTICIPATE IN. - >> Nawaz: HE KNOWS THE RISKS ARE - STILL UNKNOWN, BUT HE'S HAD TO - WEIGH THEM BEFORE. - A FEW YEARS AGO HE TOOK PART IN - ANOTHER VACCINE TRIAL, THAT ONE - FOR EBOLA. - >> IT MADE ME A LOT MORE - CONFIDENT AT THIS WAS A GOOD - CHOICE AND THE POTENTIAL - BENEFITS WOULD PROBABLY FAR - OUTWEIGH THE RISKS - >> Nawaz: DOYLE IS TAKINPART - IN A TRADITIONAL CLINICAL TRIAL, - A PROCESS THAT USUALLY UNFOLDS - IN THREE PSES. - FIRST, SMALL GROUPS RECEIVE THE - TEST VACCINE TO TEST FOR ITS - BASIC SAFETY. - THE STUDY IS THEN EXPANDED TO - INCLUDE TARGET GROUPS FOR THE - VACCINE, BEFORE ITS THEN GIVEN - TO THOUSANDS MORE WHO THEN GO

- BACK TO THEIR DAILY LIVES, TO - SEE HOW WELL IT PROTECTS THEM D - FROM TEASE. - THAT PROCESS RELIES ON PEOPLE - GETTING ACCIDENTALLY EXPOSED TO - THE VIRUS AND CAN OFTEN TAKE - MONTHS OR YEARS, LEADING HEALTH - EXPERTS TO WARN THE BEST CASE - SCENARIO FOR A COVID 19 VACCINE - COULD BE A LONG WAY OFF. - >> ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE FASTEST - WE'VE GONE FROM A SEQUENCE TO W - TRIAL IT STILD NOT BE - APPLICABLE TO THE EPIDEMIC - YEAR AND OFF.T ABOUT A YEAR TO A - >> Nawaz: THE URGENCY TO FIND A - VACCINE HAS LED TO CONCERNS THAT - THOSE TRADITIONAL CLINICAL - UNTRIALS THAT ARE ALREADY DER - WAY AREN'T MOVING QUICKLY - ENOUGH. - AND THERE'S NOW GROWING CALLS TO - BEGIN ANOTHER MORE CONTROVERSIAL - KIND OF TRIAL. - THEY ARE CALLED HUMAN CHLENGE - TRIALS, IN WHICH, A R - GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS ARE GIVEN A - YCCINE AND THEN DELIBERAT - INFECTED WITH COVID 19 TO - >> SO CHALLENGE STUDIES FILL A - REALLY CRITICAL GAP THERE. - >> Nawaz: SEEMA SHAH, A

- BIOETHICIST AT NORTHWESTERN - UNIVERSITY, SA THE REAL VALUE - HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS IS - THEIR SPEED. - >> SO YOU CAN TAKE TWO GROUPS OF - PEOPLE RANDOMIZE ONE TO RECEIVE - A VACCINE. - THE OTHER TO RECEIVE PLACEBO AND - THEN EXPOSE THEM TO THE VIRUS. - AND IF YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE - BETWEEN THOSE TWO GRYOU - KNOW, VERY QUICKLY WHETHER THAT - VACCINE WORKED. - >> Nawaz: NOW, UP UNTIL THIS - POINT, HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS O - HAY EVER BEEN USED WITH - DISEASES LIKE MALARIA OR TYPHOID - FEVER-- CUBLE IF THE VACCINE - FAILS. - WITH COVID 19, THERE IS NO CURE. - >> CHALLENGE TRIALS HAVE A LOT - OF PROMISE AND POTENTIAL. - BUT WE HAVE TO BE SUT - THEY'RE GOING TO REALIZE THAT - POTENTIAL AND THAT WE CAN MANAGE - THE RISKS APPROPRIATELY. - >> Nawaz: A RECENT STUDY - PUBLISHED IN THE "JOURNAL OF - INFECTIOUS DISEASES" ALSO SAYS - THATUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS - COULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO - ACCELERATE A CORONAVIRUS - VACCINE. - AND A GROUP OF OVER 30 MEMBERSES - OF CONGRHAS URGED THE - FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER - USING HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS, - LIKENING THE FIGHT AGAINST THE - PANDEMICO WAR, IN WHICH "THERE - IS A LONG TRADITION OF - VOLUNTEERS RISKING THEIR HEALTH, - AND LIO HELP SAVE THE

- LIVES OF OTHERS. - THAT CHANCE TO HELP SAVE LIVES - IS WHAT LED 34-YEAR-OLD NEW - YORKER JOSH MORRISON TO LOOK - INTO THE TRIALS. - >> YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT IT - SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO - PLORE. - ITS SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE A - SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. - >> Nawaz: AFTER BECOMING A - KIDNEYONOR IN 2011, MORRISON - LEFT HIS CORPORATE LAW JOB AND - LAUNCHED A N-PROFIT TO MAKE - DONATION EASIER. - HE LAUNCHED A NEW NON-PROFIT, - CALLED ONE DAY SOONER, SIGNING - UP VOLUNTEERS FOR A POMAIBLE - CHALLENGE TRIAL FOR COVID - 19. - >> THERE IS A REAL BENEFIT TO - FEELING KE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE - ONE STEP THAT'S, YOU KNOW, - USEFUL OR POTENTIALLY USEFUL. - AND I THINK THAT HELPS WITH KIND - OF COPING WITH THIS REALLY - TERRIBLE DISEASE AND TERRIE'R - SITUATION IN RIGHT NOW. - >> Nawaz: OVER THE LAST FEW - MONTHS, HIS LIST HAS STEADILY - GROWN. - TODAY MORE THAN 28,000 - VOLUNTEERS, MOSTLY IN THEIR 20'S - AND 30'S, HAVE SIGNED T FROM - MON 100 COUNTRIES.

- TO BE DELIBERATE INFECD WITH - A DEADLY VIRUS. - >> YES, YES. - >> Nawaz: DID THAT SURPRISE YOU? - >> IT DID. - IF CHALLEN TRIALS DO GO - FORWARD, I ALWAYS DID FEELIKE - THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH - PEOPLE WHO'D BE ELIGIBLE TO DO - IT, WHO WOULD WANT TO DO IT. - >> Nawaz: 31 YEAR-OLD LEHUA - AY, OF AUSTIN, TEXAS, IS ONE - OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS WHO THINKS - THE RISKS ARE WORTE IT. - GNED UP WITH H PARENTS - >> MY MOM WORKS FOR THE V.A. ANS - MY DAD WOR THE T.S.A. - AND WHEN I, SO THEY'RE BASICALL - LIKE ON THE FRNES EVERY - SINGLE DAY. - AND THEY'RE BOTH ESSENTIAL. - SO THEY CAN'T, THEY KE - MEASURES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, - ULD SO, LIKE FOR ME, IF I - TAKE SOME OF THE RISK OFF OF - THEM AND PUT IT ONTO MYSELF, - SINCE I'M YOUNG AND HEALTHY AND, - YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MUCH MORE HIGH - RISK, LIKE THAT'S A NO BRAINER. - >> Nawaz: 23 YEAR-OLD LENA - JEWLER, ALSO SIGNED UP. - SHE'S A MASTERS' STUDENT AT - JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY SCHOOL - OF PUBLIC HEALTH. - >> FINDING A VACCINE FASTER AND - A SAFE VACCINE FASTER AN

- EFFECTIVE VACCINE FASTER HAS SO - MANY BENEFITS ATTRIBUTED TO IT, - NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, LIS SAVED, - BUT BEING ABLE TO SOCIALLY - INTERACT IN WAYS THAT WE HAVEN'T - BEEN ABLE TO IN THE PAST MONTH - AND A HALF AND PERHAPS WON'T BET - ABAGAIN UNTIL THERE'S A - VACCINE. - >> Nawaz: BUT DOCTOR MIKE - T VINE, WHO HAS WORKED ON - VACCINE DEVELOPMNCE THE - LATE 1960'S, INCLUDING MORE THAN - A HUNDRED CHALLENGE TRIALS FOR - DISEASES LIKE CHOLERA AND - DYSENTERY, IS SKEPTICAL.UR - IF SOMEONE IN AMILY CAME - TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND SAID, I - THINK I WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR - THESE TRIALS, WHAT WOULD YOU - SAY? - >> I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, I - WOULD RECOMMEND NOT - >> Nawaz: LEVINE ARGUES THE TIME - IT WOULD TAKE TO SAFELY SET UP - THE FIRST HUMAN CHALLENGE TRIALS - FOR CORONAVIRUS MIGHT NOT - ACTUALLY BE FASTER THAN THE - CLINICAL TRIALS ALREADY - UNDERWAY. - AND IF THE HUMAN CHALLENGE - TRIALS ONLY INCLUDYOUNG, - HEALTHY PEOPLE, THERE'S NO - GUARANTEE A VACCINE WOULD HELPRA - THE MOST VULE. - >>LUITE ASIDE FROM THE ETHI - ISSUES, THIS WOULD BE VERY - COMPLICATED. - THIS IS NOT A WALK IN THE PARK - AT THE MOMENT.

- IF WE HAD A VACCINE ORKED - ONLY IN YOUNG ADULTSTHAT WOULD - BE HELPFUL IF IT DIDN'T WORK, - AND IT'S POSSIBLE IF IT DIDN'T - WORK IN PROTECTING THE ELDERLY, - THEY MAY HAVE TO SPEND THE REST - OF THEIR, LIVES UNTIL COVID - TRANSMISSION DIMINISHES IN A - DEGREE OF SECLUSION. S - >> Nawaz: STILMA SHAH HAS - BEEN WORKING WITH THE WORLD - HEALTH ORGANIZATION TO DEVELOP - THE ETHICAL CRITERIA THAT NEED - TO BE MET IF EXPERTS DECIDE TO - MOVE FORWARD ON A COVID 19 HUMAN - CHALLENGE TRIAL. - >> RESEARCHERS HAVE TO KNOW THIS - IS WORTH DOING AND THEY HAVE TO - MAKE A SOLID CASE ABOUT THAT. - AND GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT'S - MAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S A - DIFFICULT CASE T. - BUT IT'S NOT OUT OF THE - I ESTION. - THATE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE IN - CHALLENGE STUDIES IN THE PAST, - IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO A - AY THAT WE KNOW WILL MOVE - THE NEEDLE. - >> Nawaz: AND MAYBE MOVE ONE - STEP CLOSER TO ENDINCOVID - 19 PANDEMIC. - NAWAZ.PBS NEWSHOUR, IM AMNA

- >> Woodruff: TWO AMERICANS - OVERSEAS RECEIVED LENGTHY JAIL - SENTENCES IN PROCEEDINGS WATCHED - CLOSY HERE, AND AROUND THE - WORLD. - NICK SCHIFRIN NOW LOOKS AT THE - CASES OF FORMER MARINE PAUL - WHELAN IN RUSSIA, AND THE - RENOWNED JOURNALIST MARIA RESSA, - IN THE PHILIPPINES. - >> SO, IT IS WHAT IT IS.ch - >> Sifrin: TODAY A DEFEATED - PAUL WHELAN LISTED FROM A - GLASS CAGE TO WHAT HIS LAWYER - CALLED A SENTENCE WITHOUT - EVIDENCE, AND A JUDGEMEN - WITHOUT TRANSLATION. - >> YOUR HONOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT - YOU SAID. - >> Schifrin: OUTSIDE THE - COURTHOUSE, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO - WHELAN'S TRIAL A SHAM.ALLED - >> IT'S A MOCKERY OF JUSTICE, I - CAN'T SAI'M SURPRISED. - IF THEY CAN DO IT TO PAUL, THEY - CAN IT TO ANYONE. - >> Schifrin: WHELAN IS A FORMER - POLICE OFFICER AND MARINE, WHO - LOVED TO TRAVEL.

- HE WAS ARRESTED IN MOSCOW INND - DECEMBER 201 ACCUSED OF - SPYING, A CHARGE HE HAS - CONSISTENTLY DENIED. - HE TURNED 50 AND SPENT MORE THAN - 500 DAYS IN PRISON, AND HAS MADE - HIS CASE, THROUGH BARS AND - JOSTLING JOURNALISTS. - >> ALTHOUGH RUSSIA SAYS ITHT - CAAMES BOND ON A SPY - MISSION, IN REALITY, THEY - ABDUCTED MR.EAN ON HOLIDAY. - I'M THE VICTIM OF AN ASSAULT BY - A PRISON AGENT, AND THATTH - SOMETHIN YOU NEED TO - COVER. - >> Schifrin: DAVID WHELAN IS - PAUL'S TWIN BROTHER. - DO YOU BELIEVEOUR BROTHER HAS - TTEN A FAIR TRIAL? - >> PAUL HAS BEEN GIVEN AIB - TE DEAL WITH THE RUSSIAN - SYSTEM, BOTH FROM BEINGAT - ENTRAPPEHE VERY BEGINNING, - NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE - TRANSLATED EVIDENCE. - NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE WITNESSES - APPEAR. - THE WHOLE THING IS A RAILROAD. - >> Schifrin: MOSCOW SAYS IT'S - INTERESTED IN A PRISONER SWAP. - FOR KONSTANTIN YAROSHENKO, A - FORMER MILITARY PILOT CONVICTED - BY A U.S. COURT OF CONSPIRACY TO - SMUGGLE COCAINE, OR THELE - NOTORIOUS ARMSR VIKTOR - BOUT, CONVICTED OF CONSPIRACY TO - KILL U.S. CITINS AND - OFFICIALS. - LAST NOVEMBER SENIOR UME. STATE

- DEPA OFFICIAL JULIE FISHER - REJECTED THE SWAP. - >> THERE IS NO NEED TO DISCUSS A - SWAPPARTICULARLY FOR SOMEONE - WHO WAS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL. - >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER - BEEN A QUESTION THAT'S WHAT HE'S - BEEN HELD FOR.D - I WO VERY CONFLICTED ABOUT - PAUL BEING A TOURIST, EVEN - THOUGH THE RUSSIANS CALLED HIM A - SPY, BEING EXCHANGEDMSOR A - RUSSIAN DEALER, A RUSSIAN - DRUG DEALER. - >> Schifrin: 5,000 MIL AWAY, - MARIA RESSA WALKED OUT OF AAL - TRIAL SHE ALSOLED A SHAM. - THE FILIPNA-AMERICAN JOURNALIST - IS A FORMER CNN CORREST, - AND STARTED THE INDEPENDENT NEWS - OUTL, RAPPLER. - >> WE'RE AT THE PRECIPICE, IF WE - FALL OVER WE'RE NO LONGER A - DEMOCRACY. - ARE WE A DEMOCRACY OR NOT? - LET US DO OUR JOBS. - >> THERE WILL BE NO LET UP IN - THIS CAMPAIGN. - >> Schifrin: SINCE 2016, - FILIPINO PRESIDENT RODRIGO - DUTERTE HAS CARRIEOUT A WAR ON - DRUGS, THAT THE U.N. CALLS AN - EXTRAJUDICIAL, MURDEROUS - CRACKDOWN THAT KILLED 12,000. - HE'S ALSO WAGED WAR ON THE PRESS - AND DISSENT, SHUTTING DOWN THE - COUNTRY'S LARGEST BROADCASTER - JUST LAST MONTH. - RAPPLER REPEATEDLY CRI ACIZED

- DUTERT LINKED A PROMINENT - BUSINESSMAN TO ILLEGAL DRUGS. - EVEN THOUGH RESSDIDN'T EDIT - THAT ARTICLE, AND EVEN THOUGH IT - WAS PUBLISHED EIGHT YEARS AGO, - SHE COULD FACE SIX YN - PRISON. - >> ARE WE GOING TO LOSE FREEDOM - OF THE PRESS, WILL IT BE DEATH - BY 1,000UTS, OR ARE WE GOING - TO HOLD THE LI SO THAT WE - PROTECT THE RIGHTS THAT ARE - ENSHRINED IN OUR CONSTITUTION? - >> IT OKS LIKE A TARGETED - ATTACK ON A SINGLE JOURNALIST - OO HAS BEEN, WRITN A LO - DONE A LOT OF HIGHLY CRITICAL - COVERAGE OF THE DUTERTE - ADMINISTRATION. - THAT IS A THREAT TO EVERYUR - LIST IN THE COUNTRY. - THE COMMITTEE TO PROJECTER IS - JOURNALIST'S ASIA COORDINATOR. - HE SAYS THE THREAT TO JOURNALI - IN ASIA, GOES BEYOND THE - PHILIPPINES. - >> MANY GOVERNMENTS HAVE HAVE - ACTIVATED ANTI-TERROR LAWS OR OR - LIBEL LAWS, FAKE NEWS LAWS. - ENIS IS PART OF A BROADER - THAT HAS FORCED PRESS FREEDOM

- FURTHER INTO RETREAT FROM WHAT - WE'VE SE IN RECENT YEARS. - >> Schifrin: WHETHER THROUGH - JAILING JOURNALISTS,STAGE - DIPLOMACY, TWO AMERICANS HAVE - BECOME THE TARGETS OF - GOVERNMES PURSUING THEIR - ENDAS, BY MANIPULATING - JUSTICE. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M NICK - SCHIFRIN. - >> Woodruff: AS PRESIDENT TRUMP - GEARS UP FOR HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN - RALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC HIT, WE - TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLITICAL - PRESSURES ON HIM TO ACON - POLICE REFORM. - OUR POLITICS MONDAY TEAM IS HERE - TO ANALYZE THAT AND MO - AMY WALTER OF "THE COOK - POLITICAL REPORT" AND HOST OF - PUBLIC RADIO'S "POLITICS WITH - AMY WALTER." - AND TAMARA KEITH OF NPR. - SHE ALSO CO-HOSTS THE "NPR - POLITICS PODCAST." - >> Woodruff: LEGALO TO BOTH OF - YOU, IT IS MONDAY, A LOT TO TALK

- ABOUT. - WE HAVE JUST LEARNED AMY THAT IN - THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER PRESINT - TRUMP WILL BE SIGNING TOMORROW - THE WHITE HOUSE PUTTING OUT WOR - THAT IT WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT - TRAINING, SOMETHING ABOUT - TRANSPARENCY, ABOUT INFORMATION - SHARING AND ABOUT COMNITY - POLICING. - WE DON'T KNOW MANY DETAILS. - HOW MUCH PRESSURE IS THERE NW - ON PRESIDENT TRUMP TO DO - SOMETHING ABOUT POLICE REFORM? - JUDY, THERE IS A LOT OF - PRESSURE ON HIM. - I MEAN I THINK MANY OF US HAVE - BEEN SUROWISED ATUICKLY - THIS ISSUE, NOT ONLY ROCKED IT - UP TO THE LIST OF ISSUES - AMERICANS SAY THEY ARE CONCERNED - ABOUT.I SAW A CNN POLL THAT SHOD - THIS AS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR - TERS. - OBVIOUSLY MANY MORE DEMOCRATS - SEE THIS AS A TOP ISSUE THAN - REPUBLITANS. - BUT STILAS RANKED HIGHER - EVEN THAN COVID. - AND I ALSO THINK WE HAVE BEEN - SURPRISED AT HOW QUICKLY - AMERICAN'S OINIONS, - SPECIFICALLY WHITE AMERICAN'S - OPINIONS NOT JUST ABOUT POLICE - BUT ALSO RACISM WRIT LARGE IN - THIS COUNTRY HAVE CHANGED IN - SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. - AND THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO GE

- WITH THE RIGHT SIDE ON THIS - ISSUE. - RIGHT NOW JOE BIDENIS SEEN AS - HAVING AN ADVANTAGE ON HANDLING - RACE RELATIONS. - THE CNN POLL, B MORE THAN 30 - POINTS. - SO THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO COME - STOUT UNDDABLY VERY QUICKLY, - PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AS AN - EXECUTIVE ORDER. - CONGRESS IGOING TO IN ALL - LIKELIHOOD GET TO THIS ISUE AT - SOME POINT IN JULY WHICH WILL - GIVE THE PRESIDENT ANOTHER - OPPORTUNITY TOIGN SOMETHING. - >> Woodruff: SO TAM, YOU COVER - THE WHITE HOUSE. - IF YOU ARE PRESIDENT TRUMP OR - ONE OF THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM, - HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THERE ISSUE? - >> WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS - REALLY BEEN GOING B FCK ANORTH - ON WHAT HIS MESSAGE IS AND WHO - HE IS DELIVERING THAT MESSAGE - TO. - HE IS SOMEONE, HIS MPAIGN RAN - AN AD DURING THE SUPER BOWL - ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. - BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE WANTS TO - BE THE LAW AND ORDER PRESIDENT. - AND HE IS SPEAKING TO DIFFERENT - CONSTITUENCIES.

- BUT CLEARLY AS AMY SAYS, THE - FACT THAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS - RUSHED, HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS - EXECUTIVE ORDER, THE FACT THAT - THE PRESIDENT IS, ACCORDING TO - OFFICIALS GOING TO BE CALLING ON - CONGRESS TO DO MORE, JUS IS A - SIGN OF THE PRESSURE THAT HE'S - UNDER TO SHOTHAT HE'S DOING - SOMETHING AND ISN'T SIMPLY - FOCUSED ON LAW AND ORDER ORES - INDIVIDUAL CA - THAT SAID, WHETHER HE TIES THISN - THE LARGER IDEA OF SYSTEMIC - RACISM THAT PROTESTERS ARE - MARCHING ABOUT OR WHETHER HE - REALLY MAKES THIS ABOUT THE FEW - HAS APPLES WHICH IS WHAT HE - BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH THERE - FEW BAD COPS, I THINK THAT - REMAINS TO BE SEEN. - IT SEE TMS MUCH MORE LIKEAT - HE IS GOING TO LIEN ON THE SIDE - OF WELL, LET'S ROOT OUT THE FEW - GUYS-- . - >> Woodruff: MEAN TIME, THE - PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO SAY HE - HAS ONE MORE FOR - AT ONE POINT, BETTER THANY. - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, IT SOUNDED LIKE

- WHAT HE WAS SAY - BUT AMY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT - THIS RALLY. - FIRST CAMPAIGN RALLY HE HAS HAD - SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN. - IT'S GOING TO BE IN TULSA, - OKLAHOMA, THE SITE OF A TERRIBLE - MASSACRE OF BLACKS BACK IN THE - 1920S. - IT WAS GOING TO BE HELD ONEN - JUNE, THE ANNIVERSARY OF - THE END OF SLAVERY. - THEY HAVE NOW MOVED IT TOSA - RDAY. - BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS IT STILL - SMART FOR THE PRESIDENT TO BE - DOIN THIS? - >> WELL, NOBODY IN PUBLIC HEALTI - THINKS'S A GOOD IDEA FOR HIM - TO BE DOING THIS. - THE TULSA NEWSPAPER, THE EDITOR - QUAL BOARD SAID WE LOVE HAVINA - PRESIDENT COME IN, BUT WE WITH - LIKE HIM TO NOT COME IN THE - DDLE OF A PANDEMIC, ESPECIALLY - WHEN IT MEANS A WHOLE BUNCH OFED - PEOPLE CROOGETHER INDOORS - WHICH IS ACCORDING TO ALL HEALTH - EXPERTS ABOUT THE WOR POSSIBLE - THING THAT YOU CAN DO WITH - COVID. - BUT JUDY, IT COMESACK TO THS. - IT IS THE POLITICS OF IT REAHELY - AREN'TSSUE HERE.

- IT SEEMS TO ME IT IS WHAT THE - PRESIDENT WANTS TO DO. - HE LOVES GETTING THE ADORATION - OF, HE CROHE HAS BEEN - MISSING IT DESPERATELY. - LOOK, THE REASON THAT THE - PRESIDENT THOUGH IS SITTING AT A - VERY LOW POINT OF JOB APPROVAL - RATINGS, IN FACT, HE HAS DROPPED - RATING, IT IS NOT BECAUSE HE - HASN'T HELD ENOUGH RALLIES. - ST BECAUSE THE TWO MOST - IMPORTANT ISSUES RIGHT NOW TO - AMERICANS THE COVID CRISIS AND - RACE RELATIONS, HE IS SEEN BY - MAJORITY AS NOT HANDLING THOSE - PARTICULARLY WELL. - AND SO DOING A RALLY ISN'T GOING - TO MAKE HIS APPROVAL RATINGS - MOVE AT ALL. - SO POLITICALLY, IT'S REALLY FOR - HIM. - IT'S NOT FOR HIS POLITICAL - STANDING. - >> Woodruff: AND TAM, HELP US - UNRSTAND THE WHITE HOUSE - THINKING HERE. - WHY DO THEY THINK IT IS THE - RIGHT THING TO DO? - >> WELL, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T - LIKE POLLS, RIGHT? - HEOESN'T TRUST THEOLLS BUT

- HE DOESN'T HAVE THE THING TO - POINT TO TO SAK, LOOHE POLLS - ARE WRONG. - I HAVE AMAZING ENTHUSIASM, VUS - LOOK AT THESE PLPEO - WELL, AFTER SATURDAY HE IS GOING - TO HAVE THAT BACK. - HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE T SAY - LOOK AT THOSE 19,000 PEOPLE THAT - WE PACKED INTO THE CENTER IN - TULSA, OKLAHOMA, AND LOOK AT JOE - BIDEN. - IS HE STILL DOING SMLL - GATHERINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE - SOCIALLY DISTANT. - THIS IS N GOING TOE SOCIALLY - DISTANT. - THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN TOLD ME DAY - THEY WILL BE PASSING OUT MASKS - BUT THEY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED. - AND THEY WILL PASS OUT HAND - SANITIZER. - BUT THE ARENA WILL BE ABSFUOLUTY - IS WHAT THEY SAY. - PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THAT - YOU KNOW, SOCIAL DISTANCING - WOULDN'T LOOK SO GOOD FOR A - RALLY, IT IT WOULDN'T REALLY - WORK. - SO HE GOING TO HAVE THIS BIG, - BOLD, LOUD EXAMPLE OF HOW HE HAS - ENTHUSIASM. - NOW YOU KNOW, DOES ONE RALLY - THEY GATE A BUNCH OF NEGATIVE - POLLS, PROBABLY NOT.

- BUT IT WILL LOOK GOOD IN THE - ADS. - >> Woodruff: AND JUST A FEW - SECONDS TO EACH OF YOU, IS IT A - PROBLEM FOR JOE BID THAT HE IS - NOT GETTING OUT, AMY? - >> WELL, RIGHT NOTHE REAL - CLEAR POLITICS HAS HE JOE BIDEN - UP OVER 8, SO NO I WOULD SAY IT - IS NOT A PROBLEM. - >> AND HE IS MAKDING A CALCULA - RISK THAT IT MAY NOT BE A GREAT - IDEA TO BE THE SOURCE OF SUA - RSPREADER EVENT. - WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE TRUMP - RALLY WILL TURN INTO AUPER - SPREADER EVENT BUT WITHOUT - SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS THE - EXPUBLIC HEALTPERTS I TALK TO - ARE REALLY CONCERNED. - >> Woodruff: I GUESS IF YOU - CAN BE UP FROM YOUR BAE EIGHT - UP FROM YOUR BASEMENT, WHY - CHANGE THINGS. - TAMARA KEITH, AMY WALTER, WELL - WE THANK YOU BOTH. - >> Woodruff: ON THE NEWSHOUR - ONLINE, THE LATEST EPISODE OF

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