PBS NewsHour; Thursday, October 13, 2022, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT
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♪ HOST: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, THE JANUARY 6 HEARINGS. THE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE CAPITAL INSURRECTION SUBPOENAS FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. >> WE ARE OBLIGATED TO SEEK ANSWERS DIRECTLY FROM THE MAN THAT SET THIS ALL IN MOTION AND EVERY AMERICAN IS ENTITLED TO THOSE ANSWERS SO WE CAN ACT NOW TO PROTECT OUR REPUBLIC. HOST: RISING PRICES. NEW DATA SHOWS INFLATION REMAINS STUBBORNLY HIGH DESPITE THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S EFFORTS STOKING FEARS OF A RECESSION. AND BORDER ENFORCEMENT. THE NEW PLAN TO TRY TO STEM THE SURGE OF MIGRANTS FROM VENEZUELA.
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JANUARY 6 VOD TO SUBPOENA FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE LAST MAJOR ACTION FROM THE PANEL BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE AIM OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO QUESTION THE FORMER PRESIDENT ABOUT HIS ACTIONS. THE MOVE WILL ALSO LIKELY SETS OFF A NEW COURT BATTLE. TO HELP MAKE SENSE OF ALL OF THIS, I AM JOINED BY OUR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT. LET'S START WITH THE NEWS OUT OF TODAY'S HEARING. THE SUBPOENA COME WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHY THE COMMITTEE CHOSE TO DO THIS NOW? >> THEY VOTED 9-02 SUBPOENA THE FORMER PRESIDENT. -- THEY VOTED-0 TO SUBPOENA THE RMER PRESIDENT. THEY HAVE LAID OUT THE KEYS THROUGHOUT THE HEARINGS AND TODAY I AGAIN AS THEY SAY A PRESIDENT WHO PLANNED MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME TO CLAIM THE ELECTION WOULD BE STOLEN FROM HIM AND THEN ENCOURAGED A MOB TO
ATTACK THE CAPITAL AND BRING OTHER U.S. OFFICIALS IN LINE WITH HIM TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION. HERE IS LIZ CHENEY THEY NOW THE ARGUMENT AS SHE SEES IT FOR THE CASE AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT. >> THIS LEADS US TO A KEY QUESTION -- WHY WOULD AMERICANS ASSUME THAT OUR CONSTITUTION AND INSTITUTIONS AND OUR REPUBLIC ARE INVULNERABLE TO ANOTHER ATTACK? WHY WOULD WE ASSUME THOSE INSTITUTIONS WOULD NOT FALTER NEXT TIME? A KEY LESSON IS THIS -- OUR INSTITUTIONS ONLY HOLD WHEN MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD FAITH MAKE THEM HOLD REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL COST. WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THESE MEN AND WOMEN WILL BE IN PLACE NEXT TIME. ANY FUTURE PRESIDENT INCLINED TO ATTEMPT WHAT ARNOLD TRUMP DID HAS NOW LEARNED NOT TO INSTALL PEOPLE WHO COULD STAND IN THE
WAY. REPORTER: THE COMMITTEE DOES EXPECT A LEGAL FIGHT FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT BUT IN A PRACTICAL SENSE THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE CEASES TO EXIST AT THE END OF THIS ONLY IF DEMOCRATS RETAIN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE. DOES IT SEEM THE SUBPOENA WILL LIVE PAST THIS? THE FORMER PRESIDENT QUESTIONED THE TIMING OF THE SUBPOENA AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT HE WROTE. WHY DID THEY WAIT UNTIL THE FINAL MOMENTS OF THEIR LAST-MINUTE? BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE IS A BUST THAT HAS ONLY SERVED TO DIVIDE OUR COUNTRY. HE ALSO REPEATED KNOWN FALSEHOODS ABOUT THE ELECTION. THOSE ON THE COMMITTEE SAY, WHY IS THE TIMING NOW? THEY TELL ME BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE LED THEM HERE AND THEY DID NOT START HERE. HOST: WE KNOW WHAT THE COMMITTEE SHOWED WAS SHOWN CREEPILY BUT THERE WAS NEW FOOTAGE AS WELL.
TELL US ABOUT WHAT WE SAW AND LEARNED. >> IT WAABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID BEFORE AND DURING THE ATTACK. R WE HEARD WORDS FROM CASSIDY HUTCHINSON WHO SAID SHE HEARD FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SAY THAT HE HAD LOST THE ELECTION. THE MOST RIVETING TESTIMONY AND FOOTAGE WAS FROM INSID THE CAPITAL OF CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS. I WANT TO SHOW YOU A FEW MINUTES. IT BEGINS AFTER NANCY PELOSI WAS WHISKED AWAY FROM THE HOUSE FLOOR. >> THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY WE CAN MAINTAIN THE SENSE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT THERE IS SOME SECURITY OR CONFIDENCE THAT GOVERNMENT CAN FUNCTION AND THAT WE CAN ELECT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. CAN WE GO BACK INTO SESSION? >> NOW EVERYONE ON THE FLOOR IS PUTTING ON TEARGAS MASKS. >> THEY ARE PUTTING ON THEIR
TEARGAS MASKS. >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> HOUSE MEMBERS ARE ALL WALKING OVER NOW FROM THE TUNNEL. >> I AM GOING TO CALL THE SECRETARY OF DOD. WE HAVE SENATORS STILL IN THEIR HIDEAWAYS. THEY NEED SECURITY NOW. >> THEY SAID SOMEONE WAS SHOT. >> WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THE JOB DONE TODAY. HE WAS WITH US EARLIER. HE SAID WE CAN EXPEDITE THIS AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN CONFINED THIS TO ONE COMPLAINT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE STATES.
THE OVERRIDING WISH IS TO DO THIST THE CAPITAL. WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD DIRECTLY IS IT WILL TAKE DAYS FOR THE CAPITAL TO BE OK AGAIN. WE HAVE GOTTEN A VERY BAD REPORT OF THE CONDITIONS OF OUR BUILDING -- I DON'T THINK THAT IS HARD TO CLEAN UP. BUT I DO THINK IT IS MORE FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT OF MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS OUT OF THE BUILDING. ? AND HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE? ? REPORTER: THAT WAS POWERFUL FOOTAGE. SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW WERE CAPITOL POLICE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK. CONGRESS DID RECONVENE BUT AS WE KNOW, JANUARY 6 AND ALL OF THAT FOOTAGE IS A REAL PART OF LIFE AT THE CAPITAL. HOST: WE KNOW THE COMPETITIVE --
WE KNOW THE COMMITTEE SUBPOENAED SECRET SERVICE. WHAT FROM THAT DID THE COMMITTEE SHOW IN TODAY'S HEARING? REPORTER: THOSE DOCUMENTS INCLUDED A PICTURE OF SECRET SERVICE THAT THEY KNEW AN ATTACK WAS COMING. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT WAS RAISED BY REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF. A TIP THAT THE SECRET SERVICE GOT. >> THE SOURCE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE PLAN WAS TO LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE. PLEASE TAKE THIS TIP SERIOUSLY AND INVESTIGATE FURTHER. THE SOURCE ALSO MADE CLEAR THAT THE PROUD BOYS HAD DETAILED THEIR PLANS ON MULTIPLE WSITES LIKE THE DONALD. LET'S PAUSE HERE. THE SECRET SERVICE HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION MORE THAN 10 DAYS BEFOREHAND REGARDING THE PROUD BOYS' PLANNING FOR JANUARY 6. REPORTER: THERE WERE CLEAR CONVERSATIONS FROM EMAILS
BETWEEN SECRET SERVICE MEMBERS INDICATING THEY BELIEVED PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS PLANNING TO COME TO THE CAPITAL THAT DAY AND WITHIN A VERY QUICK SPAN, SOME SECRET SERVICE OFFICIALS SAYING, WE WILL NOT GO TO THE CAPITAL. HOST: TODAY WAS THE NINTH PUBLIC HEARING. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? REPORTER: THIS IS THE QUESTION, WE DO NOT KNOW. THE COMMITTEE HAS NOT ANNOUNCED WHEN IT WILL HAVE ITS LAST MEETING. WE DO KNOW IT IS WORKING ON THE FINAL REPORT. I EXPECT THAT AFTER THE MIDTERM. THE MAIN REPORT WE EXPECT TO COME AFTER. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE SHORT PIECE OF SOUND HE HEARD -- WE HEARD. >> I WILL ALSO NOTE THIS -- THE COMMITTEE IS REVIEWING TESTIMONY REGARDING ATTENTIONAL OBSTRUCTION ON THIS ISSUE INCLUDING TESTIMONY ABOUT ADVICE GIVEN NOT TO TELL THE COMMITTEE
OUT THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC. WE WILL ADDRESS THIS MATTER IN OUR REPORT. MUSGROVE THAT IS IT -- REPORTER: THAT IS A NOT-SO-SUBTLE REMINDER. MANY ON THIS COMMITTEE HOPING THIS WILL LEAD TO CHARGES BUT WE DO NOT KNOW IF IT WELL. HOST: THAT IS LISA DESJARDINS REPORTING FROM CAPITOL HILL TONIGHT. THANK YOU. FOR MORE ANALYSIS OF TODAY'S HEARING, I AM JOINED BY THE DIRECTOR OF GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY'S INSTITUTE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ADVOCACY AND PROTECTION. SHE IS A FORMER JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL AND A LAW PROFESSOR AT GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY AND FORMER ASSOCIATE COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. MARY, LET'S START WITH WHERE LISA LEFT OFF. REPRESENTATIVE AGUILAR TALKED ABOUT OBSTRUCTION.
>> WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY WILL BE INVESTIGATING BUT IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE NEW EVIDENCE THEY HAVE OBTAINED SINCE THE LAST HEARING SUGGESTS THE SECRET SERVICE KNEW FAR MORE THAN IT HAD LET ON PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE DANGER, THE THREATS OF VIOLENCE TO MEMBERS, THE CAPITAL, THE VICE PRESIDENT. THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TODAY'S NEW EVIDENCE. IT APPEARED THAT THE CONGRESS MEMBER GAVE US THAT IT MIGHT BE INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY HEARD FROM SOME OF THE SECRET SERVICE MEMBERS THEY HAVE SPOKEN WITH. THAT IS WHAT HE WAS INDICATING TO US. HOST: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> WE HEARD EARLIER IN SOME OF THE HEARINGS THAT SOME FOLKS HAD BEEN ADVISED NOT TO TALK TO THE COMMITTEE OR HAD BEEN ADVISED ASHA I KNOW YOU ARE WITH ME OR
THE PRESIDENT. WE WANT TO CHECK IN. THE PEOPLE OUND THE PRESIDENT OR THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF ARE MAKING THOSE PHONE CALLS, THAT CAN LEAD TO OBSTRUCTION CHARGES. HOST: ONE BIG QUESTION HAS BEEN -- WHAT COULD ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND DO AFTETHESE HEARINGS? HE SAYS HE IS WATCHING. FEDERAL PROSECUTORS ARE WATCHING. DOES THIS DECISION TO SUBPOENA THE FORMER PRESIDENT CHANGE THE CALCULATIONS? >> IF HE TESTIFIES THERE IS A LOT OF JEOPARDY HE COULD BE IN. HE COULD RUN HIMSELF INTO LYING UNDER OATH. HIS LAWYERS WILL TELL HIM DON'T GO AND IF YOU DO ASSERT EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. IF HE DECIDES TO GO, HE IS LIKELY TO TRY TO PUT ON A DEFENSE TO PUT HIMSELF OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAYING, I WAS NOT WRONG AND THE
ELECTION WAS STOLEN. WE WILL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT. IT IS NOT OBVIOUS TO ME THAT HE WILL NOT TESTIFY. HOST: ARE WE LIKELY TO HEAR FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> HE HAS BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE MY SIDE OF THE STORY. I AGREE THAT HIS LAWYERS ARE TELLING HIM TO NOT TESTIFY. HE ALSO -- IF HE TESTIFIES, HE WILL WAIVE SOME OF THE PRIVILEGES AND HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DRAW THE LINES HE MIGHT WANT TO DRAW. I THINK WE WILL WAIT TO SEE. HE MAY DECIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO TWEET OUT, I'M GOING TO TESTIFY. HOST: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE -- ONGOING THREATS TO DEMOCRACY. THE COMMITTEE HAS MESSAGED THAT THE ONGOING THREATS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THEIR WORK.
WHAT DID YOU HEAR IN TODAY'S HEARING AND THE OTHER EIGHT THAT TELLS YOU ABOUT HOW SERIOUS THE THREATS ARE AND WHAT CAN BE DONE? >> WHAT YOU JUST PLAYED AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR WITH LIZ CHENEY TALKING ABOUT OUR INSTITUTIONS HELD BECAUSE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD FAITH. WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS THROUGHOUT 2020, 2021, AND BEFORE THE ELECTIONS WE HAD FALSEHOODS AND DISINFORMATION ABOUT A STOLEN ELECTION EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION. WE KNEW THAT BEFORE BUT WE HAD IT CONFIRMED. THAT IS WHAT WAS DRIVING THE VIOLENCE. WE KNOW FROM THINGS LIKE FROM WHAT ROGER STONE SAID, LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE VIOLENCE. THAT HAS CONTINUED. OUR INSTITUTIONS HAVE HELD BECAUSE AS LIZ CHENEY SAID, THE MEN AND WOMEN IN PLACES LIKE LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS, GOVERNORS, SECRETARIES OF STATE,
THEY REFUSED TO CAPITULATE TO THE WISHES OF THE PRESIDENT. NOW WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE OF THE DISINFORMATION. WE HAVE DONALD TRUMP CONTINUING AND DOUBLING DOWN ON THE STOLEN ELECTION. AND FUELING VIOLENCE. AN EXAMPLE -- THE STRATEGY SPREAD ACROSS EXTREMIST SOCIAL MEDIA IS COUNTY OVER COUNTRY. TAKE YORK COUNTY, CAPTURE -- TAKE YOUR COUNTY, CAPTURE YOUR STATE. WE SEE THREATS TO LOCAL OFFICIALS, COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS, TEACHERS. THEY ARE BEING REPLACED BY ELECTION DENIERS. WE HAVE ELECTION DENIERS RUNNING FOR OFFICE. THAT IS THE KIND OF THREAT THAT LIZ CHENEY WAS FORESHADOWING. HOST: WHEN YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE NINE HEARINGS, THE COMMITTEE SET OUT HIGH STANDARDS.
DID THEY MEET THEIR GOALS? >> I THINK THE COMMITTEE LAID OUT A CREDIBLE ARGUMENT FOR THE CASE THAT THE PRESIDENT KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING ON GENERALLY SIX, AND ENCOURAGED -- ON JANUARY 6 AND ENCOURAGED IT TO HAPPEN. THE COMMITTEE HAD A SLAMDUNK. THE QUESTION IS WILL IT MATTER? WILL THE ELECTORATE CARE? HOW DOES THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE FEEL ABOUTHAT LED UP TO THOSE DAYS? DONALD TRUMP WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE A CANDIDATE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WHAT DO REPUBLICANS DO BEING THE PARTY OF NATIONAL SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND A PARTY THAT BELIEVES IN LEGITIMATE ELECTIONS AND ATTEMPTS TO FIGHT AGAINST VOTER FRAUD -- WHAT DO THEY DO WITH A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO HAS DENIED THE RESULTS OF THE
ELECTION AND ENCOURAGED AN INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITAL? HOST: AND ALSO WATCHING WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL DO IF ANYTHING. ON THIS NINTH PUBLIC HEARING BY THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YOU CAN WATCH TODAY'S ENTIRE HEARING ON OUR WEBSITE, PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR AND ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGE. ♪ HOST: IN THE DAYS OTHER NEWS, THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REFUSED FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMPS REQUEST FOR AN INDEPENDENT ARBITER TO EXAMINE CLASSIFIED WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS. THEY TURNED UP WHEN THE FBI SEARCHED HIS ESTATE IN FLORIDA. THERE IS A -- SEPARATELY, PUBLISHED REPORTS SAID THAT MR. TRUMP HAD STAFFERS MOVE SOME OF
THE MATERIALS AT MAR-A-LAGO BEFORE AND AFTER THE FBI SEARCHED AND SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE SHOWED THAT BEING DONE. A JURY IN FLORIDA HAS BURIED THE PARKLAND SCHOOL GUNMEN FROM -- A JURY IN FLORIDA HAS SPARED THE PARKLAND SCHOOL GUNMEN. STATE LAW REQUIRED UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT TO IMPOSE A DEATH SENTENCE. AFTER TODAY'S SESSION, VICTIMS -- PARENTS OF THE VICTIMS CALLED THE OUTCOME DEVASTATING. >> THERE WAS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THIS WOULD BE THE DEATH PENALTY. I AM BEYOND DISGUSTED WITH WHAT HAPPENED. AND AGAIN, WHAT IS THE DEATH PENALTY FOR IF NOT FOR THE MURDER OF 17 PEOPLE? HOST: THE JUDGE WILL IMPOSE THE SENTENCE IN NOVEMBER. RELATIVES WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT THAT HEARING. THE U.S. LABOR DEPARTMENT TURNED
INTO ANOTHER TOUGH REPORT TODAY ON INFLATION AT THE RETAIL LEVEL. CONSUMER PRICES ROSE 0.4%, SHARPLY HIGHER THAN IN AUGUST. THE CORE RATE EXCLUDING FOOD AND ENERGY JUMPED 6.6%, THE MOST IN FOUR DECADES. THE INFLATIONARY SURGE MEANS SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS WILL GET THEIR BIGGEST COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT IN 40 YEARS. IT AMOUNTS TO EIGHT POINT 7%. IN JANUARY THE AVERAGE RECIPIENT WILL GET AN ADDITIONAL $140 OR MORE EACH MONTH. WE WILL LOOK CSELY AT THAT LATER IN THE PROGRAM. IN UKRAINE, RUSSIAN MISSILES AND DRONES AGAIN STRUCK CITIES IN REVENGE ATTACKS FOR THE BOMBING OF A BRIDGE IN CRIMEA. UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS REPORTED AT LEAST 13 PEOPLE DEAD AND 40 WOUNDED OVER 24 HOURS. IN A SOUTHERN CITY, RESCUERS COMBED THROUGH THE RUBBLE OF A WRECKED APARTMENT BUILDING.
SURVIVORS TOLD OF CLOSE CALLS WHEN THE MISSILES HIT. >> I WAS IN MY BED. IT SAVED MY LIFE. THE EXPLOSION THREW ME OUT OF THE BED. I WAS ASLEEP AND THEN I WAS THROWN ON THE GROUND. THE EXPLOSION BLAST THROUGH ME THERE. I DO NOT HAVE A HOME ANYMORE. HOST: THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT COMPARED RUSSIAN ATROCITIES WITH OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE MASS GRAVES HAVE BEEN FOUND PREVIOUSLY. HE GAVE NO ADDITIONAL DETAILS. MAJOR STREET CONFRONTATIONS ACROSS EAST JERUSALEM OVERNIGHT IN THE WORST UNREST IN MONTHS. ISRAELI POLICE LAUNCHED LIVE ROUNDS. BURNING DEBRIS LITTERED THE STREETS. THE TROUBLE STARTED AFTER A SUSPECTED PALESTINIAN GUNMEN KILLED AN ISRAELI SOLDIER THIS WEEK. A BUS BOMBING IN SYRIA HAS KILLED 18 GOVERNMENT SOLDIERS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF DAMASCUS. STATE MEDIA REPORTED AT LEAST 27
OTHERS WERE WOUNDED. VIOLENCE HAS BEEN INCREASING IN GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED AREAS. THERE WAS NO CLAIM FOR RESPONSIBILITY. THE U.S. AND SAUDI ARABIA TRADED TOUGH TALK OVER SHARP CUTS IN OIL OUTPUT. THE SAUDI SAID A U.S. REQUEST TO PUT OFF THE CUTS WOULD'VE DESTABILIZED THE OIL MARKET. THE WHITE HOUSE DENIED IT WAS TRYING TO DELAY THE HIKES UNTIL AFTER THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL SPOKESMAN KIRBY SAID THE SAUDI MOVE MEANS MORE OIL REVENUE FOR RUSSIA FUELING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. ON WALL STREET, STOCKS DROPPED ON THE INFLATION NEWS AND THEN RALLIED BACK WITH MAJOR INDICES GAINING 2%-THREE PERCENT. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE ULTIMATELY GAID 828. THE S&P 500 INDEX JUMPED 93. STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR," THE FACTORS BEHIND A LIFE
SENTENCE IN PRISON FOR THE PARKLAND GUNMEN. WILL THE BUMP IN SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS BE ENOUGH? WE VISIT WISCONSIN FOR A CLOSE LOOK AT A CRITICAL SENATE RACE THAT COULD DETERMINE CONTROL OF CONGRESS. AND MUCH MORE. ♪ >> THIS IS THE PBS "NEWSHOUR" FROM DUB YOU ETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM. HOST: A FLORIDA JURY HAS RECOMMENDED LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE RATHER THAN THE DEATH PENALTY FOR THE GUNMEN BEHIND THE PARKLAND SCHOOL SHOOTING. 17 PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN 2018. JOHN YANG HAS OUR REPORT. REPORTER: THE SEVEN MEN AND FIVE WOMEN ON THE JURY UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT THE MASSACRE WAS PREMEDITATED AND ESPECIALLY HEINOUS, ATROCIOUS, OR GROW. THE JURY FOREMAN TOLD A MIAMI TV
STATION THAT THREE JURORS SAID THE AGGRAVATING FACTORS DID NOT OUTWEIGH THE MITIGATING FACTORS. THE FAMILIES OF THOSE KILLED SHALL THEIR HEADS IN DISBELIEF. THE FATHER OF A 14-YEAR-OLD EXPRESSED HIS ANGUISH. >> MY BEAUTIFUL GINA -- THE OTHER SONS AND DAUGHTERS, SPOUSES AND FATHERS, THEY WERE THE VICTIMS HERE. OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO PUNISH THIS SHOOTER TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW NOT AS AN ACT OF REVENGE BUT TO PROTECT OUR NATION SCHOOLS. REPORTER: TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE VERDICT, DAVID WEINSTEIN, FLORIDA DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND FORMER PROSECUTOR IN FLORIDA. WERE YOU SURPRISED? >> I WAS SHOCKED.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW QUICKLY THEY CAME BACK. THAT USUALLY SIGNIFIES IT WILL BE A VERDICT IN FAVOR OF THE STAGE. I WAS AS SHOCKED AS ANYONE. REPORTER: THE THREE JURORS WHO SAID THE AGGRAVATING FACTORS DID NOT OUTWEIGH THE MITIGATING FACTORS. THE MAJOR MITIGATING FACTOR WAS THAT THE SHOOTER HAD WHAT IS CALLED FEBRILE ALCOHOL SPECTRUM. HERE IS MELISSA MCNEIL IN HER CLOSING STATEMENT. >> HE DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO HIS BIOLOGICAL MOTHER WAS. HE HAD NO CONTROL OVER HOW HE WAS CONCEIVED. HE HAD NO CONTROL OVER HOW MUCH COLT 45 THAT BRENDA DRANK WHEN HE WAS GROWING IN HER BELLY. REPORTER: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THAT ARGUMENT? >> IT RESONATED ENOUGH WITH AT LEAST ONE AND AS MANY AS THREE OF THESE JURORS AND IT GAVE THEM ENOUGH INFORMATION TO JUSTIFY THEIR DECISION TO VOTE FOR LIFE IMPRISONMENT. SHE ASKED EM TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. REPORTER: HOW MUCH OF A CHALLENGE DID THAT PRESENT TO THE PROSECUTION TEAM IN GETTING A UNANIMOUS VERDICT FOR THE DEATH PENALTY? >> I THINK IT WAS A TASK THEY SAW WOULD BE DIFFICULT. THEY PUT FORWARD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF AGGRAVATING FACTORS THAT THEY PROVED TO THE JURY AND THAT THE JURY AGREED TO AT THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN IS IT HAS TO BE UNANIMOUS.
THEY HAD TO CONVINCE ALL 12 OF OSE PEOPLE THAT THE MITIGATION WAS NOT ENOUGH TO OUTWEIGH THESE MITIGATING FACTORS AND THEY WERE ON 60 -- AND THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. THE DEFENSE THAT THEY HAD HIT A CORE WITH ONE OR MORE OF THOSE JURORS BECAUSE THEY STOPPED SHORT IN THE NUMBER OF WITNESSES. REPORTER: EXPLAIN TO US WHY THE SENTENCE WAS NOT IMPOSED TODAY. IT HAS BEEN PUT OFF UNTIL NOVEMBER FIRST. HOW MUCH LATITUDE DOES THE JUDGE HAVE? >> SHE HAS NO LATITUDE. THIS JURY HAS RECOMMENDED A LIFE SENTENCE, THAT IS THE SENTENCE SHE MUST IMPOSE AND THAT IS WHY SHE WAS GOING TO IMPOSE IT THIS MORNING. THERE ARE TWO PORTIONS OF LAW -- A VICTIMS -- AND A STATUTORY PROVISION THAT REQUIRES A JUDGE HERE FROM VICTIMS AND NEXT OF
KIN BEFORE THE JUDGE IMPOSES SENTENCE. THAT IS WHY NOVEMBER 1 WILL BE THE DAY SHE HEARS FROM THE 17 VICTIMS THAT SURVIVED AND THE NEXT OF KIN OF THE VICTIMS THAT DIED AND THEY WILL TELL HER WHAT THEY THINK THE SENTENCE SHOULD BE BUT SHE HAS NO CHOICE. SHE CANNOT OVERRIDE THE DECISION OF THE JURY. REPORTER: WE HEARD A LOT OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION FROM THE FAMILIES OF PEOPLE KILLED IN THIS MASSACRE. AS A PROSECUTOR, YOU WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THIS? >> THIS IS THE WORST SITUATION. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED IN A WAY THAT NONE OF US CAN TELL UNLESS WE HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE. YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT THIS IS A PROCESS WE HAVE ALL PUT OUR
FAITH IN AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS A SMALL SLIVER OF A SILVER LINING IN THIS DARK CLOUD FOR THEM, THIS WILL END THE PROCESS. THERE WILL BE NO APPEALS. THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO RELIVE THE DEATH OF THEIR LOVED ONE THROUGH THE APPELLATE PROCESS. IN TERMS OF THERE BEING FINALITY , THOUGH IT WAS NOT WHAT THEY HAD HOPED FOR, IT WILL BE A FINALITY FOR THEM AS FAR AS THE COURT SYSTEM GOES. THERIS NO WAY TO TELL SOMEONE WHO HAS LOST A LOVED ONE YOU KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. YOU CAN TELL THEM YOU HAVE DONE THE JOB THEY HAVE ASKED AND ENABLED YOU TO DO TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE 12 PEOPLE. REPORTER: ONE MORE DIFFICULT DAY OUT OF SO MANY FOR THESE FAMILIES.
DAVID WEINSTEIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU ARE WELCOME. ♪ ♪ HOST: NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT , THE LATEST INFLATION NUMBERS ARE NOT GOOD. IT IS STILL ABOVE 8% AND AT A 40 YEAR HIGH WITH PRICES RISING FOR HOUSING, MEDICAL CARE AND MORE. IT WILL ALMOST SURELY MEAN ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT INTEREST RATE HIKE IN A FEW WEEKS. OUR ECONOMIST IS HERE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS BEHIND THE PERSISTENT INFLATION. SHE IS WITH KPMG. WELCOME BACK TO THE "NEWSHOUR." THE INFLATION INCREASE WAS MORE THAN WHAT MANY EXPECTED THOUGH THE FED IS TAKING AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS TO BRING DOWN PRICE INCREASES. WHAT IS DRIVING THE INFLATION INCREASE AND WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET UNDER CONTROL? >> SADLY, IT REFLECTS INFLATION
IN THE SERVICE SECTOR AND THAT IS TIED TO THE LABOR MARKET WHICH GETS TO THE DIFFICULT ISSUE THE FED IS IN WITCHES TARGETING THE LABOR MARKET WITH RATE HIKES. THEY ARE TRYING TO BRING DOWN DEMAND TO BE IN LINE WITH A VERY SUPPLY CONSTRAINED GLOBAL ECONOMY. A SUPPLY CONSTRAINED ECONOMY IN THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AND A CONSTRAINED LABOR MARKET. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKERS OUT THERE. WE WANT WORKERS IN JOBS IN LINE AND IN BALANCE WITH EACH OTHER SO THEY CAN HAVE WAGES THAT EXCEED INFLATION RATHER THAN WAGES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY CHASING INFLATION. THE KINDS OF INFLATION WE ARE SEEING OUT THERE IN HEALTH CARE COSTS, COVID WAS COSTLY AND IT IS HAVING A LEGACY IMPACT ON HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS. SHELTER COSTS HAVE A RISE TRIGGERED BY THE FRENZY OF EVERYONE WANTING TO BUY A HOME
WHEN INTEREST RATES PLUMMETED. THE COSTS ARE SHOWING UP IN THE COST WE SEE OUT THERE. THE HIGH DEMAND FOR RENTALS AND SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. THOSE THINGS TOGETHER ARE GIVING US THIS BAD INFLATION STOOP. HOST: IT IS A COMPLICATED PICTURE. JOBS ARE PLENTIFUL. WAGES ARE RISING. UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOW HERE IN CONSUMER DEMAND IS STRONG. AND YET WE SEE THE INFLATION INCREASE. HOW CAN WE RECONCILE THE FACTORS? >> IT IS HARD THE REALITY IS THAT THE AVERAGE CONSUMER HAS LOST EVERYTHING THEY HAVE GAINED AND THEN SOME TO INFLATION ON WAGES. THE WAGES WENT UP AND THAT WAS TERRIFIC. AND THEN INFLATION ACCELERATED SO MUCH IT LEFT HIM SCORCHED AND BURNED IN THEIR WALLETS AND THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND IT IS WHY MOST AMERICANS THOUGH WE CREATED OVER 3.8 MILLION JOBS YEAR TO DATE WHICH IS THE SECOND
MOST WE WOULD CREATE IN ANY YEAR SINCE 1984, A STUNNING AMOUNT OF JOBS, THOUGH WE HAVE CREATED THOSE PAYCHECKS, MOST PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE LOSING GROUND. THEY FEEL WE ARE ALREADY IN A RECESSION. THE PROBLEM IS WE DO HAVE DEMAND STALLING OUT DESPITE 3.8 MILLION NEW PAYCHECKS. CONSUMER SPENDING IS GROWING LESS THAN 1% IN THE CURRENT QUARTER AND WILL STALL OUT IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. WE WILL HAVE TO SEE A COOLER CHILL TO DEMAND IN 2023 AND THAT IS HARD FROM THE FED'S PERSPECTIVE. INFLATION IS LIKE CANCER. IF YOU DO NOT DEAL WITH IT NOW WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PAINFUL, IT COULD METASTASIZE AND BECOME MORE CHRONIC. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE TREATMENT IS EASY. HOST: WE KNOW SO MANY AMERICANS ARE STRUGGLING. THAT IS DIANE FROM KPMG.
THANK YOU. FOR OLDER AMERICANS AND RETIREES , THERE WAS SOME HELPFUL NEWS TO ACCOMPANY THIS INFLATION REPORT. AMERICANS RECEIVING SOCIAL SECURITY WILL SEE A SIZABLE BUMP . STARTING IN JANUARY. THAT IS THANKS TO THE FUNNY 23 COST OF LIVING -- THAT IS THANKS TO THE 2023 COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT. HOW MUCH WILL IT HELP? REPORTER: THE INCREASE WILL BE THE LARGEST BENEFIT ADJUSTMENT IN 40 YEARS AND SHOULD COVER SENIORS REAL COST HIKES SAYS A RETIREMENT EXPERT. >> THE COLA IS BASED ON THE CPIW , THE INFLATION MEASURE FROM THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. IT TRACKS THE INFLATION FOR WAGE EARNERS.
REPORTER: UNLESS THE INFLATION RATE RISES ABOVE 8.7% NEXT YEAR R JACKING UP THE CPIW. AN AVERAGE INCREASE OF AROUND $1700 A YEAR, MORE THAN $4000 FOR THOSE GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY'S MAXIMUM BY WAITING UNTIL AGE 70. >> THERE IS A REDUCTION IN THE MEDICARE PREMIUM WHICH COMES OUT OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK. >> MEDICARE IS TAKEN OUT OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK. LAST YEAR THERE WAS A BIG INCREASE IN THE PREMIUM WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THE ALZHEIMER'S DRUG WOULD BE A BIG EXPENSE. REPORTER: IT WILL GO DOWN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR ACTUALLY. >> THAT IS CORRECT. REPORTER: AND SOME NON-SENIORS GET THE COLA BENEFIT? >> THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE COLA. REPORTER: WHO DOESN'T BENEFIT?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE ARE FOLKS THAT WON'T BENEFIT. IT IS A QUESTION OF THE EXTENT OF THE BENEFITS. REPORTER: FOR RENTERS FOR EXAMPLE -- >> THEY HAVE LESS CONTROL OVER THEIR HOUSING COSTS. RENTS HAVE BEEN GROWING SPECTACULARLY. THIS WILL HELP. BUT WILL IT SOLVE HOUSING PROBLEMS? NO. REPORTER: HOW DOES IT AFFECT RENTERS? >> RENTERS TEND TO HAVE LOWER INCOMES. ASKING RENTS WERE UP 11.6% FROM THE FIRST QUARTERF 2021. IN CERTAIN AREAS, PRICES ROSE MORE THAN 20%. IN 2021, THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY WAS 5.9%.
REPORTER: MORE CONCERNING IS THE WIDENING INCOME GAP. >> WHEN YOU THINK OF LOW INCOME RENTERS ALREADY RELIANT ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS THAN THEIR HIGHER INCOME PEERS, THIS IS A BIG CONCERN. REPORTER: FOR OLDER AMERICANS, THERE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS COMPARED TO NOT SO OLD AMERICANS. >> MORE OLDER ADULTS TEND TO LIVE ALONE AND THE RATE REACHES INTO THE HIGH 58% AMONG THOSE 80 AND OLDER AND INCREASES WITH AGE. REPORTER: WHAT ABOUT RACIAL DISPARITIES? >> THERE ARE VAST HOMEOWNERSHIP GAPS IN THIS COUNTRY. MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR, MORE OLDER HOUSEHOLDS OF COLOR ARE RENTERS AND HAVE LOWER INCOMES AND ARE RELIANT ON SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO RISING RENTS THAT ARE OUT
PIECING THE COST OF LIVING INCREASES. REPORTER: DESTE THE GAPS, THE COLA WILL PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR TENS OF MILLIONS OF US. IN THE END, THE COLA -- WAIT UNTIL AGE 70 TTAKE YOUR BENEFIT IF YOU CAN. >> THE BIG PROBLEM IN RETIREMENT IS YOUR SAVINGS. IF YOU WAIT UNTIL 70, YOUR BENEFIT WILL START 76% HIGHER ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION. IF OTHER THINGS ARE TAKEN AWAY YOUR RESOURCES THROUGH INFLATION, YOU WILL HAVE A SECURE REAL INCOME HIGHER AND WILL CONTINUE UNTIL YOU DIE. REPORTER: SOCIAL SECURITY IS INSURANCE. I WAS SKEPTICAL WHEN LARRY FIRST TOLD ME THAT IS.
IF I DIE EARLY I WILL LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE BENEFITS I COULD HAVE TAKEN BUT DIDN'T. >> DYING EARLY WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU WON'T REGRET ANYTHING IF YOU ARE DEAD. REAL CONCERN IS LIVING UNTIL 80, 90, OR OLDER AND RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. REPORTER: TODAY'S BENEFIT BUMP WILL MATERIALIZE IN SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS STARTING JANUARY 1. ♪ HOST: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED A PLAN TO PROVIDE A LEGAL PATHWAY END OF THE COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN 20,000 VENEZUEN MIGRANTS. AT THE SAME TIME, THOUSANDS OF OTHERS WHO ENTERED THE U.S. ILLEGALLY WILL BE SENT BACK TO MEXICO. WE EXPLAIN THE SHIFT IN POLICY. LET'S START WITH THE PLAN.
REPORTER: THIS IS A JOINT ACTION BETWEEN THE U.S. AND MEXICO. IT IS SUPPOSED TO, THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS, HELP REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARRIVING AT THE BORDER. THE NUMBER OF VENEZUELANS. THE FIRST PART OF THIS AS PROVIDING A NARROW LEGAL PATHWAY FOR VENEZUELANS THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE. WHAT THIS HUMAN PAROLE PROGRAM WOULD DO, THE WAY VENEZUELANS WOULD QUALIFY IS IT REQUIRES A FINANCIAL SPONSOR, THEY HAVE TO PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK, COMPLETE VACCINATIONS AND IT IS MODELED AFTER THE UKRAINIAN PAROLE PROGRAM. THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS IT IS MUCH MORE NARROW. HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY AND HE SAID THIS NEW ENTIRE PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES GOOD ON A PROMISE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN A
DURING THE CAMPAIGN. >> OUR PROGRAM IS BASED ON A CORPORATE CIVIL OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS WHEN INDIVIDUALS ARE SO DESPERATE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY THAT IS THEIR HOME, THEY ARE PLACING THEIR LIFE SAVINGS AND LIVES IN THE HANDS OF SMUGGLERS WHO EXPIT THEM FOR PROFIT, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD SAFE AND HUMANE PATHWAYS THAT CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SO THEY DO NOT NEED TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE MORE DESPERATE AND DANGEROUS MEASURES AT THE PERILOUS JOURNEY INVOLVES. REPORTER: HE ALSO WENT ON TO SAY THAT THIS IS A PART OF TT JOINT AGREEMENT WITH MEXICO AND A PIECE OF THAT IS THAT IT EXPANDS THE TITLE 42 DEPORTATION POLICY WHICH IS -- WHICH WAS FIRST ENACTED UNDER FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. UNDER THAT EXPANSION OF TITLE
42, VENEZUELANS WILL BE ABLE TO BE SENT BACK TO MEXICO. MEXICO HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKING MIGRANTS FROM THE U.S. WHO CAME FROM HONDURAS AND ECUADOR SO THIS IS AN EXPANSION. HOST: ON THE LEGAL PATHWAY, WHY ARE THEY PROVIDING IT SPECIFICALLY FOR VENEZUELANS AND WHY NOW? >> VENEZUELANS ARE FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO CROSS THE BORDER THIS YEAR THEN LAST YEAR. THE VENEZUELANS, IN021, 48343. THAT JUMPED 152938. MANY OF THE VENEZUELANS THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE THE JOURNEY, GOING INTO MEXICO TO GET TO THE U.S., THEY MAY NOW NOT
QUALIFIED. WHAT WILL MAKE VENEZUELANS INELIGIBLE, THE KEY POINTS ARE IF THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE UNITED STATES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THEY WILL NOT QUALIFY. AND GOING FORWARD, SINCE THE EFFECTIVE DATE, IF THEY CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY THEY DO NOT QUALIFY. AND IF THEY ILLEGALLY ENTER PANAMA OR MEXICO FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, THEY CANNOT SEEK RELIEF THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. AND HOMELAND SECURITY HAS STRESSED THAT IF AT ANY POINT MEXICO DECIDES IT DOES NOT WANT TO BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THE PROGRAM GOES AWAY. HOST: IMMIGRATION FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE TO GET UNDER CONTROL. WE ARE AT RECORD HIGH ENCOUNTERS. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS FACED A LOT OF CRITICISM FOR KEEPING IN PLACE POLICIES THAT HIS PREDECESSOR PUT INTO PLACE. WHAT DO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE
WHITE HOUSE SAY? REPORTER: PRESIDENT BIDEN RAN SAYING HE WOULD TAKE AWAY TITLE 42. AND THE VICE PRESIDENT ALSO SAID IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THERE HAS BEEN MIXED PRAISE -- DEMOCRATS AND IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ADVOCATES SAY THEY ARE GLAD FOR THIS NARROW LEGAL PATHWAY. THEY ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF TITLE 42. I SPOKE WITH ANGELA KELLY, A FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIAL UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE DECISION. >> I GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION AN A FOR BUILDING ON THE SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR UKRAINIANS PROVIDING VENEZUELANS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE U.S. BUT IT IS TWO THUMBS DOWN THAT THEY ARE NOW APPLYING TITLE 42, EXPEDITED EXPULSION THE SAME POPULATION THEY ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT. THEY GOT HALF THE EQUATION RIGHT. AND RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS AND HARM.COM WITH TITLE 42. REPORTER: IN ADDITION TO THAT, ADVOCATES WERE SAYING THEY WOULD LOVE FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS TO BE EXPANDED NOT JUST TO VENEZUELANS BUT OTHER WESTERN HEMISPHERE COUNTRIES. BORDER MIGRATIONS -- MIGRATIONS ARE UP FROM COUNTRIES LIKE HAITI, CUBA, NICARAGUA -- FROM COUNTRIES WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF COMMUNIST REGIMES CAUSING THE MIGRANTS TO FLEE. HOST: AS WE SEE RECORD MOVEMENT ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ♪ HOST: THE 2022 MIDTERM ELECTIONS ARE LESS THAN ONE MONTH AWAY AND
A HANDFUL OF STATES WILL BE CRITICAL IN DECIDING THE BALANCE OF THE CENTAGE. ONE IS WISCONSIN. MANDELA BARNES IS LOOKING TO UNSEAT THE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT WHO HAS A SLIGHT LEAD IN THE LATEST POLLS. THEY FACE OFF IN THEIR SECOND DEBATE TONIGHT. JUDY WOODRUFF RECENTLY VISITED THE BADGER STATE AND HAS THIS REPORT. REPORTER: IN WISCONSIN'S COLUMBIA COUNTY, AN HOUR NORTH OF MADISON, NEIGHBORS PETER AND RIP HAVE PLENTY IN COMMON. THEY ARE BOTH AVID HUNTERS. THEY ARE BOTH CATHOLIC. THEY GREW UP WITHIN MINUTES OF EACH OTHER IN MILWAUKEE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS, SPECIFALLY THIS YEAR'S SENATE ELECTION, THESE FRIENDS OF ALMOST DECADE DISAGREE. >> RON JOHNSON HAS BEEN A RUBBERSTAMP REPUBLICAN. MANDELA BARNES IS TALKING ABOUT
UNIFYING THE STATE AND WORKING FOR EVERY CITY IN THE STATE AND EVERY PERSON. I LIKE THAT MESSAGE MORE. >> I TEND TO WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WITH BARNES MORE THEN AT THE OTHER END WITH JOHNSON. I WORRY ABOUT SAFETY IN OUR COUNTRY. REPORTER: THE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT RON JOHNSON, 67-YEAR-OLD OSHKOSH IS A SPAN IS SEEKING HIS THIRD TERM IN THE SENATE. HIS DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER, A 35-YEAR-OLD IS A MILL WILL -- IS WISCONSIN'S MILWAUKEE BORN GOVERNOR AND A FORMER ORGANIZER. >> THEY ARE ABOUT AS DIFFERENT AS YOU COULD GET IN TERMS OF THEIR BACKGROUNDS. REPORTER: A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN MADISON. HE SAYS INTEREST IN THIS SENATE RACE IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT
ENTHUSIASM FOR EITHER CANDIDATE. >> I THINK IT IS FEAR ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE WINNING. ARE SO EAGER TO HAVE JOHNSON OUT OF OFFICE. THEY HAVE SEEN HIM MOVE IN A MORE RADICAL DIRECTION. BARNES IS RAISING CONCERN AMONG REPUBLICANS THAT DO NOT WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY VIEW AS A RADICAL AGENDA COMING TO WASHINGTON. REPORTER: WISCONSIN IS OFTEN DESCRIBED AS A PURPLE STAGE. IN REALITY, YOU MIGHT SAY IT IS MORE OF A TAPESTRY IN RED AND BLUE WITH URBAN AREAS MADISON VOTING PREDOMINANTLY DEMOCRATIC. THE REST OF THE STATE ESSENTIALLY REPUBLICAN. WITH THESE MIDTERM ELECTIONS DRAWING CSER, VOTERS SAY THEY FEEL THE DIVISIONS ARE GROWING DEEPER. >> THERE ARE NOT MANY UNDECIDED VOTERS. THE SWING VOTERS PROBABLY AMOUNT
TO LESS THAN 10%. THE CAMPAIGNS MAY VIEW THAT AS A RISKY STRATEGY TO WIN OVER THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY WOULD RATHER GENERATE ENTHUSIASM OR FEAR FROM THEIR OWN SUPPORTERS. REPORTER: WITH THAT STRATEGY HAS COME TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN SPENDING. MUCH OF IT FROM OUTSIDE GROUPS AND AN ONSLAUGHT OF NEGATIVE ADVERTISEMENTS. >> JOHNSON SUPPORTED A CEO IN ARE SCOTTISH WHO IS TAKING THOUSANDS OF JOBS TO SOUTH CAROLINA. >> BARNES WANTED TO OPEN OUR BORDERS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND RELEASE VIOLENT FELONS WITHOUT BAIL. MANDELA BARNES, DANGEROUSLY LIBERAL ON CRIME. REPORTER: JOHNSON ATTACKED BARNES OVER RISING CRIME. >> THERE IS A RECORD OF WANTING TO DEFUND THE POLICE. HE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF BEING
SUPPORTED BY PEOPLE THAT ARE LEADING THE EFFORT TO DEFUND. HE USES CODEWORDS LIKE REALLOCATE AND OVER BLOATED POLICE BUDGETS. REPORTER: BARNES RESPONDED WHEN WE SPOKE AT A MILWAUKEE CAMPAIGN STOP. >> COMMUNITIES NEED RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO CRIME IN THE FIRST PLACE. JOHNSON SHOULD BE SO BOLD TO TALK ABOUT CRIME. RON JOHNSON VOTED AGAINST THIS INITIATIVE BECAUSE HE WOULD RATHER PLAY POLITICS. REPORTER: BARNES AND DEMOCRATS NATIONWIDE HAVE MADE ABORTION A CENTERPIECE OF THEIR CAMPAIGNS FOLLOWING THE SUPREME COURT'S OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. >> WE ARE GOING TO KEEP JOHNSON ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS DANGEROUS POSITION ON ABORTION. HE SAID IF WOMEN DO NOT LIKE THE LAWS IN OUR STATE THEY CAN MOVE. REPORTER: JOHNSON'S CAMPAIGN DID
NOT RESPOND TO OUR REPEATED REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW OR INFORMATION ABOUT HIS PUBLIC SCHEDULE. ON ABORTION JOHNSON SAYS HE WANTS VOTERS TO WEIGH IN THROUGH A REFERENDUM AND HE HAS TRIED TO REDIRECT ATTENTION TO THE ECONOMY. >> WE HAVE ADDED NEW DEFICITS IN ATHE LAST THREE YEARS AND THAT IS THE GREATEST THREAT THAT HAS SPARKED INFLATION. A DOLLAR YOU HELD AT THE START OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS ONLY WORTH 88.3 CENTS. REPORTER: A JOHNSON SUPPORTER SAYS INFLATION IS CRITICAL. >> PEOPLE ARE FEELING IT AND THEY ARE HURTING AND IT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF OVERSPENDING AND OVERSTIMULATING AN ECONOMY THAT THEY DID NOT NEED TO DO. IT IS WHAT CREATES INFLATION. REPORTER: WHILE MILWAUKEE'S SIDNEY LEE SAYS WHAT IS DRIVING HER BOW IS A FEAR HER RIGHTS
WILL BE THREATENED IF JOHNSON IS REELECTED. >> REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. I WANT SOMEONE IN OFFICE WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS. REPORTER: THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN'S BURDEN SAYS ABORTION HAS FALLEN AS AN ISSUE AS ALMOST FOUR MONTHS HAVE PASSED SINCE THE ROE DECISION. HE ALSO SAYS JOHNSON HAS BEEN HURT. >> THERE HAS NOT BEEN MUCH IN THE WAY OF A FULL THROATED DEFENSE FROM BARNES. HE HAS NOT REALLY PUT TOGETHER A CLEAR PROACTIVE MESSAGE ABOUT WHAT HE WOULD DO ABOUT POLICE OLENCE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE MORE BROADLY. REPORTER: HE SAYS JOHNSON'S POLITICAL VULNERABILITIES INCLUDING HIS TIES TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS GOTTEN
ALLEGEDLY LITTLE ATTENTION. PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER AND DEMOCRATS ARE CONCERNED EVEN IN THIS EFFECTIVELY TIED RACE WHERE FEAR SEEMS TO BE DRIVING VOTERS ON BOTH SIDES LIKE COLUMBIA COUNTY NEIGHBORS PETER AND RICK. >> I JUST DO NOT TRUST WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH BARNES. I THINK HE WILL IGNITE A LOT OF THINGS. MUSGROVE DO YOU THINK -- REPORTER: DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE LESS SAFE IF BARNES IS ELECTED TO THE SENATE? >> I THINK SO. I AM AFRAID THEY WILL HURT ME. REPORTER: THEY SAY THEY STILL TRY TO KEEP THEIR FRIENDSHIP ABOVE POLITICS BUT AS ELECTION DAY YEARS, THEY WISH OTHERS COULD DO THE SAME. HOST: AND ONLINE RIGHT NOW, A LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY AS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PUSHES CARMAKERS AND CAR BUYERS INTO
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